Performers on Singing Competions

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 9/6/16 at 10:01pm

I was watching America's Got Talent, and watching former Broadway/Off-Broadway performer BrianJustin Crum. I think of Kerry Ellis on Britain's The Voice, and other Broadway performers on shows like this. 

What do you think about people who have a professional career f*somewhat*?) competing on shows like this for amateurs? 

 

[ljay889]

Posted: 9/6/16 at 10:03pm

I almost choked when Simon said he has grown from being shy in the auditions. Brian Justin Crum... SHY??

at least Moya Angelou mentioned her Broadway career when she was on. 

Crum's voice is unbelievable but he's a seasoned professional.

Updated On: 9/6/16 at 10:03 PM

[NZBOY2]

Posted: 9/6/16 at 10:07pm

I thought the Voice was for amateurs. Until you see half of them are from backup or record deals. The Voice has never been for armatures and never has been . I am not sure where you get that idea that it was. But my question is the music industry  about image and being young rather than talent. I like Taylor Swift but she should of never one a Grammy. I personally think  why are they even on this program. Why don't they have record deals? and why do people think record deals are the  one way to get money from music.

 

Like this person for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-oF8EVF6Rs .  This was Michael Jackson's back up singer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D6PUIi6YNU

 

I personally think while fun for the time.  I think like jukebox  musicals its time to say RIP

Updated On: 9/6/16 at 10:07 PM

[gypsy101]

Posted: 9/6/16 at 11:02pm

he was kind of putting on a shy act and in his interviews he said he was a cab driver or something of the sort, and didn't mention his professional acting and singing career or being on Broadway which I found dishonest but hey, whatever narrative they think will get them votes they go for.

Updated On: 9/6/16 at 11:02 PM

[trpguyy]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 12:25am

It's all heavily scripted and edited by the producers. His background in commercial theatre has been hidden intentionally, and not by him. No one wants *real* reality TV. 

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 1:43am

ljay889 said: "at least Moya Angelou mentioned her Broadway career when she was on. "

Moya Angela...

Also, weren't the women in the Search for Elle Woods show credited as being receptionists (or whatever their day job was), etc. and not experienced performers?

[broadwayindie]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 1:48am

Adam Lambert glossed over it, the biggest one was Al Calderon saying he was the "designated happy birthday singer," and then Simon saying that the problems in his performance was due to "inexperience and nerves," I know I may be harsh but it just seemed super dishonest.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIgiDy3twvo 

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 11:31am

I REALLY want Brian to play Hedwig in the upcoming tour. With his sort of semi fame right now he would sell decently. i doubt it would happen though.

[fashionguru_23]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 11:35am

For me, I guess some of where my issue is that some people only dream of making on Broadway, and then you have these people where they don't care about it. Mind you, I will agree some of it is due to editing, etc.

[AEA AGMA SM]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 2:26pm

LizzieCurry said: "Also, weren't the women in the Search for Elle Woods show credited as being receptionists (or whatever their day job was), etc. and not experienced performers?"

 

I remember the credits being downplayed for the girls who had already been working but they couldn't fully erase it, especially with Lena Hall (who was still going by Celina Carvajal at the time) who already had four Broadway credits at the time, and Autumn Hurlbert who had been on the first national tour of Little Women. 

[NZBOY2]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 5:32pm

I think this could have more discussion 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 9/7/16 at 5:55pm

But it's not up to the performers, the producers are making the edits. I'm sure most (if not all) performers who make it to any type of singing/performing competition mention they're prior experiences, whether it's Broadway/national tours/albums, etc. The producers are the ones who want the better narrative of them being "shy" or whatever other story they can BS to add to the drama. Most of what we see on TV is not the full story. 

[broadwayguy91]

Posted: 9/8/16 at 9:52am

HenryTDobson said: "But it's not up to the performers, the producers are making the edits. I'm sure most (if not all) performers who make it to any type of singing/performing competition mention they're prior experiences, whether it's Broadway/national tours/albums, etc. The producers are the ones who want the better narrative of them being "shy" or whatever other story they can BS to add to the drama. Most of what we see on TV is not the full story. 

 

"

exactly. and of course, the general public doesn't know that you could type in the performer's name on IBDB and all their theatre credits are clear for all to see.

 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 9/8/16 at 9:56am

He said he's a cab driver?! 

[NZBOY2]

Posted: 9/8/16 at 4:15pm

Leanne Jones!

[ClumsyDude15]

Posted: 9/8/16 at 4:23pm

Early on, Brian definitely mentioned his background on Broadway and says he's been driving for a car service (Uber, perhaps?)

Carly Rose Sonneclair (2006 revival of Les Mis, Wonderland) came in second on the second season of the US X Factor while Rachel Potter (Evita, Addams Family, Wicked) and Al Calderon (13) competed the following season. Also, John Arthur Green (Matilda, the 2009 West Side Story revival) was featured on the final season of American Idol and Gabe Violett from the closing company of Spring Awakening will be on the upcoming season of The Voice. 

Updated On: 9/8/16 at 04:23 PM

[trentsketch]

Posted: 9/8/16 at 6:14pm

All of these shows edit the story lines and coach you on what you can and cannot discuss. As someone who made it far on Idol oh so many years ago, I was specifically told not to mention any of my work in theater or classical music because I was slid into a more rock/pop track by the producers than the standards track I thought they'd want me to go. My first callback was a good 25 minutes of "what else you got? Know any R&B? Rock? Jazz? Classics? Punk? Pop? This artist? That artist? What about this sung like that? Can you riff? Can you scat? Rap? Improv?" Eventually, I was told to show up with spiked up hair, black clothes, metallic jewelry, and pretend that I wasn't a super trained musician and actor when I first met the judges. This happens on every reality talent show.

At least The Voice does away with that nonsense with the blind judging aspect. They point blank tell the audience "this is a professional, let's see what the judges really think of them" and go from there. Most of the contestants each season are invited by the producers of the show. Even then, there's serious scripting going on with who gets moved on and what team they go on, but at least they don't pretend seasoned professionals walked right off the farm.

[KateSam]

Posted: 9/27/16 at 10:29pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf4h01lQIXw

Gabriel Violett  on the Voice

Updated On: 9/30/16 at 10:29 PM

[KateSam]

Posted: 9/30/16 at 6:17pm

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