If you are in NYC, or plan to be by 6/5, AND you have an affinity with musical theatre or share a concern about where America is heading, I urge you to see "American Psycho." It is truly the first modern, i.e., 21st Century, musical. Its genesis is the music video, not vaudeville nor the musicals of Broadway's Golden Age. It is a funny and searing indictment of a time and place (Manhattan, 1989) whose values have brought us to a point in time where Donald Trump appears headed to become the Republican candidate for President. It also contains two of the most brilliant, and sadly overlooked, performances of the season--Benjamin Walker and Heléne Yorke.
This is not a show for children as there is coarse language and simulated intercourse as well as simulated acts of violence. It is a show for adults who like musicals that are challenging and cause one to think. A musical like "American Psycho" comes along rarely. Eventually, it will be re-mounted and recognized, but the thrill of this original Broadway production should not be dismissed.
I'm surprised that more people haven't figured out that a show that features brutal murders of young women may not be everyone's cup of tea. I personally find the concept of the show misogynistic, and decided not to see it on my latest trip to NYC.
Yes, it's supposed to be satire, and "dark", and a commentary on the late 80's, but frankly, I think the show, the movie, and the book are just sad. I'll spend my Broadway dollars on shows I can actually enjoy.
MVintheheartland said: "I'm surprised that more people haven't figured out that a show that features brutal murders of young women may not be everyone's cup of tea. I personally find the concept of the show misogynistic, and decided not to see it on my latest trip to NYC.
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I think it's fine to not want to go near that subject matter, or especially to criticize how it is handled, but the story is in all forms as much about poisonous masculinity as it is about greed or surfaces.
Or to realize this person is trying to get more followers to their blog. (I think it shows up in the OPs "Dear Evan Hanson - NO" thread.)
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it?
These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
Someone in a Tree2 said: "^ Doesn't "Maybe you should see it first" sound like good advice for YOU to take regarding FUN HOME, given your scary comment over on that thread?"
Right? How hypocritical can you get? Many, many people have called American Psycho misogynistic (the book more so than the show) but I've never heard of Fun Home being apologetic to pedophilia until today.
undercoverusher said: "Maybe you should see it first before you shriek misogyny, which is not accurate, as Batemen kills men and women and hates himself
No, no, THIS IS SHRIEKING. And believe me, I can see where some of the show is probably amazing. I have loved the clips I have seen of "Selling Out". But the culture in general sure seems to enjoy theater, movies, and TV about killing young women. How many serial killer shows does there have to be.
I wonder what the reaction of this board would be if a show was about the serial killing of gay men? Would those folks SHRIEK?
Still, I won't contribute my money to this production. God knows, I saw about 12 shows last year (and I don't live in NYC), but this is not on my list.
Bateman does kill many gay men too. He is extremely homophobic. In the novel he brutal de-guts an old "faggot's" dog in front of him.
The characters are extremely misogynistic and homophobic, but the show itself is not and that's an important distinction to make. The show isn't condoning misogyny and homophobia- anything but. We are meant to be horrified by, not in awe of it.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
"We are meant to be horrified by, not in awe of it."
I'm not sure that's entirely true; of course it's the lip service paid, but I've no doubt that (like over the top violence in all entertainment) the creators/presenters are well aware that a significant portion of the audience gets a kick and a thrill from the violence, particularly when it's perpetrated by a sexy, near-nude hunk.
I don't really have a problem with the show but the way that some of the murders of women in the book are described in sexual and pornographic terms is what disturbs me.
Julie Klausner talked about the same thing in her recent podcast, she had to skip past those sections of the novel. She went to see the show 4 times but walked out twice due to panic attacks. She loves the show now but seeing violence against women like this is not something that every woman can watch easily.
"No, no, THIS IS SHRIEKING. And believe me, I can see where some of the show is probably amazing. I have loved the clips I have seen of "Selling Out". But the culture in general sure seems to enjoy theater, movies, and TV about killing young women. How many serial killer shows does there have to be.
I wonder what the reaction of this board would be if a show was about the serial killing of gay men? Would those folks SHRIEK?
Still, I won't contribute my money to this production. God knows, I saw about 12 shows last year (and I don't live in NYC), but this is not on my list."
Some people need to understand that art is about everything and anything. The visual arts, writing, dancing, singing, theater, just every art - is not limited to nice, law-abiding topics. Creating art about taboo subjects does not automatically mean condoning them. It's educational, entertaining, shocking, ridiculous, etc. If you don't want to be subjected to looking at violence, don't go. But don't claim it's condoning or liking that violence.
I will say that I am encouraged that my comments about not seeing "American Psycho" due to the violence toward women have been addressed pretty intelligently. Mostly. I figured I would be ripped a new one for disagreeing with the majority on this board. You all have given my renewed faith that we can have some interesting conversation here.
It's not for everyone of course. Still I'm glad to see many thoughtful opinions expressed, pro or con. I happen to like the show and I'm sorry that the nay-sayers, starting with the NYTimes and some other critics, appear to have short-circuited this stimulating evening of theatre. I plan to go again before it closes. There is some terrific work on display that deserves attention. Theatre is fleeting and I'm personally glad to have experienced it.