Follies 1971 - Official Movie

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#1Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 9:27am

Well, ladies and gentlemen, here it is! The long awaited movie of the original 1971 production of the Stephen Sondheim musical, Follies, starring Alexis Smith, Dorothy Collins, Gene Nelson, John McMartin and Yvonne De Carlo. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTD9H-yshUg

 

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-bYIoHu4U - This is the older version. To watch the improved film in HD clic the link above.)

Updated On: 1/9/16 at 09:27 AM

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#2Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 9:49am

Bravo!


The ghosts of Ethel Shutta and Mary McCarty join me in saying, "WELL DONE, KID!"


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#2Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 9:58am

Haha, thank you! I wonder what they would say if they saw it. It should be shown to Mr. Sondheim! I wonder what he would say. 

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#3Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:02pm

That is truly awesome.


You know, I think we will never be able to revive 'Follies' to match the original because those kinds of people genuinely don't exist any more and some of the life experience they carried just can't be imagined now.

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#4Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:07pm

"That is truly awesome.
You know, I think we will never be able to revive 'Follies' to match the original because those kinds of people genuinely don't exist any more and some of the life experience they carried just can't be imagined now."


Bartlett Sher and Christopher Wheeldon say hello.


But I guess we could never again have a production like the 1971 production of FOLLIES but that won't stop other people for trying their hardest to come close.

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#5Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:31pm

Wonderful job!


To me what really stands out from these films is Dorothy Collins. Others have played Sally, but she IS Sally. Adorable, delusional, crazy, tragic- what an actress.


 

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#6Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:32pm

I have to repeat my question from the other thread.


Why the watermark over the whole thing? Why would you take all the time and trouble to sift through and assemble all this wonderful footage, then slap it up with the title in boldface font over the ENTIRE VIDEO?


It really mars what would be an otherwise wonderful viewing experience. I can't fully share in the above posters' appreciation and prefer the unwatermarked originals:


The full 30 minute rehearsal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVNqsmbL28


Who's That Woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgvoAr0_gt4


The Right Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmAttoJ_kmY


Loveland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoBRHhRMCOI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iK_4ZbXCpY


Buddy's Blues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rM3ozL8m8


Lucy and Jessie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmexU4Qd0HM


And the FOLLIES IN MINIATURE movie where some of the interstitial stuff comes from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQjULRtXp0U


And actually - I just noticed you do this on all your videos. Why?!? You have such amazing material and it's so awesome that you're even sharing it (unlike some other notorious folk)! Please stop tagging it with digital graffiti!


 


(Edited after the fact to sound slightly less cantankerous.)

Updated On: 5/2/15 at 07:32 PM

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#7Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:44pm

If you don't like the way he did it, you can always do it yourself.


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#8Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:44pm

You could probably dial it back a titch. 

Showface
#9Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 7:45pm

Thank you so much!

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#10Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 8:20pm

Perhaps I'm coming across harsh but it is a pet peeve of mine. It's like when people upload YouTube videos in the wrong aspect ratio and it's either stretched out or squashed. Some people don't care but it bugs the tar out of me. Or when TV stations play a movie slightly too fast to squeeze it in. 


So if I may, a calmer suggestion. YouTube allows an "Annotations" feature, where you can put things like titles and bits of info onto videos but it's not printed onto the video file itself, it's added onto the video by YouTube and it can be turned off even if it's a default setting. I might humbly suggest that in future uploads from this user's amazing collection, perhaps any relevant info be put onto the video using that feature rather than burning it onto the source video.


Never for a moment let it be thought that I'm not thrilled and awed that this footage exists and people are willing to share it and that we live in an era with the technology to do it.


 

Updated On: 5/2/15 at 08:20 PM

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theatredk
#11Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/2/15 at 9:13pm

The 1971FilliesFan link won't work in Australia but the separate link from temms does thank you for this


 

Updated On: 5/2/15 at 09:13 PM

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#12Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 12:32am

I would agree that a less intrusive watermark would be better.


Just a small translucent "bug" in the lower left hand corner would be fine.


 

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#13Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 4:40am

Dear Theatredk, I'm afraid that it's due to copyright reasons from the music that is in the film. I'm sorry. 

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#14Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 4:44am

Dear Temms, I did not mean to upset anyone this way. The only reason I put it in rather big letters is because I was the one who created this video and I don't want other people to use it in other ways I wouldn't want my video to be used in. And that is true for all the other videos I have on my channel too: I restored the audio quality, I improved the colour and image quality, I re-trimmed the borders if they were extensively slanted, and all those kinds of things. I wouldn't want other people to take credit for things I did. 

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#15Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:11am

[Trimmed this - I ranted about how I disagree for a few paragraphs in a ranty disagreeable fashion and choose to remove it as to not make Broadway a more negative place than it already is. 


Summary - Blah blah blah angry ranting stuff, I hate watermarks, thank goodness the original footage from which this project was assembled didn't have them.


Grumble grumble grrrrrrr.]


 

Updated On: 5/3/15 at 08:11 AM

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#16Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:17am

 


Let it go, Temms. Let it go.


 


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#17Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:27am

I won't. This is the exact same attitude that's keeping the Miles Kreuger footage locked up, rotting and at risk of fire/flood/Act Of God. The whole "Well, I found it so I get to control how and where people see it." I've seen it in other avenues than Musical Theatre footage, in rare studio tapes and television shows. It's a frustratingly common attitude. 


 

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#18Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:32am

I'm sorry, but I still don't think you understand what I'm saying: I made that film, and it is my private work. Since there is no real way of putting a copyright on a video shared on Youtube, I had to put a simple title at the bottom, which does not interfere too much with the video itself. It's like any other film/documentary that is produced. Take for instance Six by Sondheim: a lot of the footage there was put together to make an overall film. That however does not mean that James Lapine is giving free permission to other people to change his work. He created it, and he deserves the credit and ownership of the creation. Just like me, I own the full creation put together, but not the individual footage. 

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#19Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:34am

Oh, I understand your position completely. I also disagree.

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#20Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:40am

"I won't. This is the exact same attitude that's keeping the Miles Kreuger footage locked up, rotting and at risk of fire/flood/Act Of God. The whole "Well, I found it so I get to control how and where people see it." I've seen it in other avenues than Musical Theatre footage, in rare studio tapes and television shows. It's a frustratingly common attitude."


But I am not doing the same thing as Mr Kreuger is: whenever I find something of that sort, I immediately share it with other people. Why should I not take credit and control over my restoration work?


Anyway, I'll stop now because I see we are going nowhere. 

Updated On: 5/3/15 at 08:40 AM

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#21Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:41am

Some people seem upset that your work exists.  For what it's worth (not much), as an attendee (twice) of the original production, I'm not among them.  I will never get enough of the 71 FOLLIES. So thank you.


"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
Updated On: 5/3/15 at 08:41 AM

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#22Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:46am

Look, clearly we all love this stuff, otherwise we wouldn't be spending our time on earth combing through grainy footage and noisy old audio tapes. I've done restoration as well and have come to the opposite conclusion re:credit and control.


The final thing I'll say since we fundamentally disagree about the issue: if you feel you must have credit, is there not a more unobtrusive away of doing it? Had there just been a little bug in the corner I wouldn't have even opened my big fat mouth. It's the prominence of it more than anything.

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#23Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 8:46am

Auggie27, your welcome, I'm happy you enjoyed it. 

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#24Follies 1971 - Official Movie
Posted: 5/3/15 at 10:37am

You did a wonderful job editing all the FOLLIES footage that was available and I was really happy that "Live, Laugh, and Love" actually does have some footage even though it wasn't the full thing. Michael Bennett's choreography is such a wonder to watch even if the quality is blurry.