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broadwayfever
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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2875
Posted: 6/20/16 at 4:53am

MyFavoriteBrunette said: "Perhaps because his time was free and didn't cost anything extra.  It's what value represents to an individual.  It can be time or money that is most valuable."

Time is never free. As the saying goes, time is money. One way of looking at it is what do you think your time is worth. How much are you worth an hour? If someone is willing to wait 100 hours for a ticket that might cost them $1,000 on StubHub, then they're basically paying themselves to line sit for a rate of $10 an hour. Then if you buy a ticket for $177, your hourly rate (self value) drops down to around $8 an hour.

Back when it was a 24 to 36 hour wait, it was worth it. However, this 80 to 100 hour wait is just ridiculous and definitely not worth the time invested....when it comes to self value/worth.

 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2876
Posted: 6/20/16 at 7:10am

I see your point broadwayfever but I think MyFavoriteBrunette meant to say he had free time; not that his time was free. Maybe it's an age thing but I'd never break down my summer time as an hourly rate back when I was in high school/college. Nowadays is different as a working individual as most New Yorkers I know are simply busy 24/7!

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Posted: 6/20/16 at 7:45am

So - I was hoping to get on the line at 4 am on Wednesday morning - for a Wednesday performance. I'm guessing now that this is totally unrealistic. How long is the line now at 7:45 am Monday?

I am very appreciative of this thread - I'm taking my daughter with me and I'd hate to go through all the trouble with her for nothing.

Good luck to everyone there!!!

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Posted: 6/20/16 at 8:04am

Hello! My twin and I will be in NYC by 2, in the line by 2:15. Hoping to get a Wednesday night. Bus home that Thursday, so we can't extend our trip. We already added a day to get up to 54 hours that we will be in line. Seeing as there's a 67 avg wait now, we are frantic. If anyone is in line hoping to get tickets for Tuesday or either Wednesday and can consider buying 2, please PM. Willing to pay $200 for the +1 ticket. We are willing to see the show on different nights of need be. Staying at the ROW, happy to let you borrow our amenities (like I said- PM). Either way, though, we are going to to our luck. If anyone is going to be in line today- Wednesday and wants to PM about being line buddies, we're both down and excited. Any advice from seasoned line people? Anyone there now who can comment on how the line looks right now? Do they take cash or credit for the cancellation tickets? What is the wifi situation? Thanks so much from two desperate twins who had had quite the go of things so far this summer. 

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Posted: 6/20/16 at 8:45am

They accept cash and credit and while you can try to connect to the theatres wifi, it sucks. At least it didn't work well for me. 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2880
Posted: 6/20/16 at 9:02am

Sorry for being a bit off topic, but I didn't want to clog the board with another Hamilton thread. I have a ticket for Hamilton in November (in the rear mezz row D, it cost about US$150). Unfortunately my travel plans have changed and I can no longer use it. I'm considering asking TM for a refund, but I don't know how lenient they will be. If they don't agree to one, what would be my best way to sell? I'm Australian so I can't use Stub Hub or TM resale (you need a US address / credit card). Plus I won't get the PDF ticket till September when the delay is lifted. Would I be best selling it online, or waiting till I am there and seeing if anyone on the cancellation line wants to buy it? I'm not really wanting to make a profit, I really just want my money back :)

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Posted: 6/20/16 at 9:51am

If you're going to be in NYC anyway but not able to see the show I would just wait until you're here and have ticket in hand and try and and sell it to someone in person. Seems like a lot of work to try and sell it online from Australia if you're unable to use StubHub or TM Resale - that leaves, what, eBay and Craigslist? Which are the ones everyone is always warned away from using, because of the high rates of fraud.

So, I walked by the theatre this morning (about 9am, Monday 6/20), and: where was the line? I don't know if it's because there's such a huge gap between Sun matinee and Tue evening shows, or what, but I counted exactly ten people on line. And I looked across the street too, what with all of the posts about the line sometimes being in front of the Edison, etc., and maybe I missed it but I saw no line there either.

And I'm reading this right now:

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/new-york/hamilton-on-broadway-behind-the-scenes-on-the-ticket-line

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Posted: 6/20/16 at 2:56pm

Anakela said: "And I'm reading this right now:

https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/new-york/hamilton-on-broadway-behind-the-scenes-on-the-ticket-line
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Ha, I was interviewed for this article and am mentioned in the last paragraph!

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2883
Posted: 6/20/16 at 3:40pm

Anakela said: "If you're going to be in NYC anyway but not able to see the show I would just wait until you're here and have ticket in hand and try and and sell it to someone in person. Seems like a lot of work to try and sell it online from Australia if you're unable to use StubHub or TM Resale - that leaves, what, eBay and Craigslist? Which are the ones everyone is always warned away from using, because of the high rates of fraud.

So, I walked by the theatre this morning (about 9am, Monday 6/20), and: where was the line? I don't know if it's because there's such a huge gap between Sun matinee and Tue evening shows, or what, but I counted exactly ten people on line. And I looked across the street too, what with all of the posts about the line sometimes being in front of the Edison, etc., and maybe I missed it but I saw no line there either.
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You can't judge the line by waht you see. At almost any given moment, a good chunk of the line can be off eating/changing/bathrooming. You don't have to spend every single moment in line. The only way to really know how long the line is is to ask the people in it.

 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2884
Posted: 6/20/16 at 3:55pm

rangersrule132 said: "Please do not spend the money on the show it is not worth it and it is something you can deffintely sit on until Lin leaves. The show is great but not worth anywhere near what resale is going for even 5 mins before show time. As someone who just spent 4 days in the cancellation line, just wait it out. It's going to be around for a long time. Again please do not buy into the scalpers false hype of this show 

 

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maybe you would have appreciated it more if you weren't camping outside for four days.

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Posted: 6/21/16 at 12:52am

Hello all! I have decided to take the plunge and try my luck at getting cancelation tickets with my cousin next week. I'm excited for the experience of trying- regardless of if we get them or not, but I do have a few questions (that may have been answered- I've read through a lot of this board, but if I'm already going to be spending 3 days of my life waiting in a line- can't also spend 3 days reading every message ever posted in this 116 page thread- hahaha) 

ANYWAY. Questions. 

1. I've read a lot of people saying to bring either pool floaties/ small camping mattresses, and also sleeping bags- which of those 2 things is more imperative?? are both?? Can you live with a pool floaty and just a blanket or two? or JUST the sleeping bag?( trying to pack (and spend) light for this trip!) 

2. Speaking of spending light. My travel buddy and I are having a hard time justifying paying for a hotel for ALL of the nights that we'll be sleeping on the sidewalk- is this a MUST you think? Have any of you gone without one??  will we hate everything if we don't have this place to go during breaks?? Right now I've been looking in to YMCA's/ Gyms that give one day passes for the occasional shower, and then booking a hotel when it seems likely we'll be getting tickets that day. 

I'm very new to this type of situation/ message boards so excuse me if my questions are ignorant. I've enjoyed reading this board and have gathered some very useful information from it thus far!! 

 

 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2886
Posted: 6/21/16 at 2:08am

allthatjazz3 said: "1. I've read a lot of people saying to bring either pool floaties/ small camping mattresses, and also sleeping bags- which of those 2 things is more imperative?? are both?? Can you live with a pool floaty and just a blanket or two? or JUST the sleeping bag?

2. Speaking of spending light. My travel buddy and I are having a hard time justifying paying for a hotel for ALL of the nights that we'll be sleeping on the sidewalk- is this a MUST you think? Have any of you gone without one??  will we hate everything if we don't have this place to go during breaks?? Right now I've been looking in to YMCA's/ Gyms that give one day passes for the occasional shower, and then booking a hotel when it seems likely we'll be getting tickets that day.
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1. I tried both and actually slept for longer in my sleeping bag on the concrete that on an an inflatable mattress, but it obviously varies. I move in my sleep and the mattress kept squeaking lol

 

2. I did 3 nights in the cancellation line and had a hostel booked the whole time. I was coming from the UK so i had a lot of luggage and sure it was an expensive way of keeping my luggage safe, but the shower access was what i needed most. Theres no way i would have done the line without being able to shower each day, though i doubt we were as hot as some people who had walked to the theatre as we had been sat still in the shade all day. If you can find somewhere in your budget id definitely recommend it.

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2887
Posted: 6/21/16 at 2:09am

Wick3 said: "I see your point broadwayfever but I think MyFavoriteBrunette meant to say he had free time; not that his time was free. Maybe it's an age thing but I'd never break down my summer time as an hourly rate back when I was in high school/college. Nowadays is different as a working individual as most New Yorkers I know are simply busy 24/7!

Yesssssss!   I unfortunately don't have time.  Tried the line once.  Nothing came from it so decided to use money instead of more time.  I have time to pay the tickets back but not the time needed to stay in line for days.  

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Posted: 6/21/16 at 12:10pm

spent time reading through the thread....... how does the 'line' work in terms of people having to actually physically be on the line?   i've noted people having hotel rooms to shower, etc.  

is one able to physically leave the line?

sorry if this has already been addressed.

thank you in advance.

 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2889
Posted: 6/21/16 at 12:40pm

lisamaria said: "spent time reading through the thread....... how does the 'line' work in terms of people having to actually physically be on the line?   i've noted people having hotel rooms to shower, etc.  

is one able to physically leave the line?

sorry if this has already been addressed.

thank you in advance.
"

You will need someone in line to hold your spot for you if you want to take breaks for whatever reason. That can be another member of your group or I suppose you could negotiate with someone else in line to briefly hold your spot, I wouldn't count on that though. This link may have been shared before but someone on Tunblr shared their line tips here: http://notemily.tumblr.com/post/145632337659/hamilton-cancellation-line-advice

Does anyone know if there is an "official" Hamilton cancellation line hashtag? My brother and I will be heading to NYC next week to give the line a shot and I'm hoping there might be another way to track wait times and line length other than this thread.

Updated On: 6/21/16 at 12:40 PM
ashk8177
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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2890
Posted: 6/21/16 at 1:25pm



"You will need someone in line to hold your spot for you if you want to take breaks for whatever reason. That can be another member of your group or I suppose you could negotiate with someone else in line to briefly hold your spot, I wouldn't count on that though."

 

When I tried the line I just told the people I was in front of and behind that I had to eat and use the restroom, and didn't have any trouble. No negotiation required. I did the same when they had to get out of line.  If you wait long enough everyone is going to have to leave at least briefly at some point. I guess it would be safer to have someone in a group with you to hold it, but in my experience it wasn't completely necessary. 

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2891
Posted: 6/21/16 at 2:13pm

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Hamilton Cancellation Line#2892
Posted: 6/21/16 at 7:40pm

What's the official policy on line sitters now?

Updated On: 6/30/16 at 07:40 PM
kr123
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Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:10am

This is a tangent but I'll be in NYC on July 9 with my daughter and I thought we might hang out at the RR Theater on that day to try to catch a glimpse of Lin, Philippa (her fave), any other cast members coming and going.  Our tickets are for July 13, so, not ideal timing as she is obsessed with the original cast.  We know we'll still see a great show but an added bonus would be to see Lin/ Philippa/Leslie/whoever else is leaving/ as well.

For those of you who have waited in the line - do you see cast members arriving at the theater before the show? Any advice for those of us hoping for a sighting? Thank you! 

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:22am

kr123 said: "This is a tangent but I'll be in NYC on July 9 with my daughter and I thought we might hang out at the RR Theater on that day to try to catch a glimpse of Lin, Philippa (her fave), any other cast members coming and going.  Our tickets are for July 13, so, not ideal timing as she is obsessed with the original cast.  We know we'll still see a great show but an added bonus would be to see Lin/ Philippa/Leslie/whoever else is leaving/ as well.

For those of you who have waited in the line - do you see cast members arriving at the theater before the show? Any advice for those of us hoping for a sighting? Thank you! 


 

"

I predict it is going to be INSANE around the RRT on the 9th so I'm not sure other's experiences will accurately mirror what you'd experience that day. Unfortunately as of late Lin has mentioned on Twitter that it's getting quite scary outside the theatre so if he doesn't already make his way in through the back alley, I wouldn't expect to see him do more than very very quickly run into the theatre (same with others).

But if that's all you are looking for, I'd suggest arriving very early! 

 

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 8:17am

What is the cheapest back back seat tickets can be had 5 min before a performance? What is the best place to look? Stubhub?

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 9:36am

pnewelljr said: "What is the cheapest back back seat tickets can be had 5 min before a performance? What is the best place to look? Stubhub?

I would check stubub and ticketmaster. At first glance stubhub appears cheaper (in my experience), but they tack on $100-$200 per ticket in fees (maybe more now). In the upper right corner there is an option on SH to search for the price after fee. I would do that, as it is a much better representation of how much you will actually pay. I think TM does that automatically, but not positive. I wouldn't count on a huge decrease for the next couple weeks though. I haven't seen the prices get below $1000 in a while (before fees are added). 

 

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 10:28am

Stubhub last-minute has been getting down to around the $500 range some days, but it's hit and miss, and it's often single tickets. The upside: they're often good seats that are only left over because they were overpriced to start with. Fees on Stubhub depend on the ticket price -- it's a percentage, not a straight fee. So a fee on a $500 ticket will be lower than the fee on a $1000 ticket. 

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 10:41am

My work schedule will not allow me to do cancellation line but I am still dying to see with the original cast.  If anyone who is doing the line could get me a ticket as their +1 I would pay for the tickets plus a little extra. If there is a couple waiting and would be willing to get 2 extras I'd love to bring one of my kids too.  I would love to go tonight, Friday night, or either Saturday performance.  If anyone is interested please PM me.  Thank you! 

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Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:33pm

Hi there! I'm new here and just learning the boards. I'm heading now into cancellation line hoping for tickets for Friday or Saturday. Any advice?  Does this seem possible?

good luck to all those amazing perseverent hamilton fans!!!

Updated On: 6/22/16 at 12:33 PM
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Posted: 6/22/16 at 12:43pm

daijop said: "My work schedule will not allow me to do cancellation line but I am still dying to see with the original cast."

They're gone. They've been gone. You need a time machine.

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