PBS Tonight Vicious

Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 12:29pm
On PBS tonight @ 10:30 is a new British series called Vicious

It is a comedy about 2 aging gay men who have lived together for many years who are getting on each other's nerves

Stars Ian Mc Cellan and Derek Jacobi




Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
Updated On: 6/29/14 at 12:29 PM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 12:46pm
There was a thread about this when it premiered a year ago and was available online. I was one of the very few who enjoyed the first episode. IIRC, actual gay Brits hated it.
"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
DAME
Broadway Legend
joined:4/15/04
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 01:10pm
The reviews at the time were brutal.
HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 01:16pm
And I laughed all through the pilot.
"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
DAME
Broadway Legend
joined:4/15/04
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 01:20pm
I am planning on watching it tonight.
HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!
Hulmeman
Leading Actor
joined:6/17/08
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 02:20pm
In a recent interview, Sir Ian said he would "play down" for the new series which is currently being planned. The supporting cast make this worth watching though.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 03:58pm
A lot of it feels like Staircase, played as a comedy. Frances de la Tour is the standout, IMHO--but it's nice to see Iwan Rheon play such a nice and cute straight guy after Game of Thrones. I think it's a fun show--but definitely old school in regards to both how it handles sexuality and the whole sitcom format.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 04:04pm
Yeah, I think the land that gave us wobbly faux-documentary self-aware sitcoms just COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE would do a 3-camera studio audience show in this century.

"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
Jay Lerner-Z
Broadway Legend
joined:4/4/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/29/14 at 06:15pm
I like it well enough too, though I'm a little surprised it's gotten a second season. Look out for a fun Judi Dench cameo in episode six, if you get that far.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 11:20am
Like The Leftovers, gave up early on. Painfully unfunny.
Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 01:24pm
^^^ These truncated viewings of single episodes will have no impact on Roxy speaking of the entire series.

Of course he was uncomfortable watching old gay guys.
"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
Jane2
Broadway Legend
joined:2/13/04
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 01:34pm
From the first two well written lines I knew I'd love this show. Hysterical!
<-----craves juicy pizza
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 06:58pm
I found it surprising that it's written by an American (who apparently was on his boyfriend's reality show?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Janetti
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 08:26pm
...an American … who apparently was on his boyfriend's reality show

I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific than that...
"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
Jay Lerner-Z
Broadway Legend
joined:4/4/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 08:34pm
It's a Brad, Brad World is an American reality documentary television series on Bravo. The series follows Brad Goreski as he breaks away from his career as the assistant of Rachel Zoe and establishes his solo career. Goreski is shown working with celebrity clients along with attempting to share his talents to other designers.

Cast
Brad Goreski:
Gary Janetti: Goreski's long-term boyfriend
Lindsay Myers: Goreski's assistant and close friend


(from Wikipedia)

Updated On: 6/30/14 at 08:34 PM
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 08:40pm
How great it must be to be the assistant of somebody's assistant.
"I hate dead people!" -- Joan Rivers. A Piece of Work
songanddanceman2
Broadway Legend
joined:8/31/06
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 6/30/14 at 10:22pm
It was hated here in the UK, I was shocked it got a second season. I adore the cast but this is a terrible show.
Namo i love u but we get it already....you don't like Madonna
HorseTears
Broadway Legend
joined:3/25/05
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 04:23am
Watched the pilot on PBS.com. Were these older American actors, this show would be airing on TVLand.

It is occasionally funny, but it's about as subtle as a tractor trailer. McKellen and Jacobi don't seem to realize they're on a tv set - they're playing to the last row.
Jane2
Broadway Legend
joined:2/13/04
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 10:19am
I laughed out loud all throughout.
<-----craves juicy pizza
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 03:32pm
"It is occasionally funny, but it's about as subtle as a tractor trailer. McKellen and Jacobi don't seem to realize they're on a tv set - they're playing to the last row. "

I actually find that part of its appeal. But you are spot on about TVLand...
Roscoe
Broadway Legend
joined:5/15/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 04:21pm
Home sick from work, watched the first episode because Derek Jacobi.

Plain and simple -- the show is filth. Not even trash, not even just bad. Filth. I've never been so embarrassed for a cast of actors in my life, until I realized that they must have read that excremental script and signed on knowing what they were in for. Only Frances de la Tour emerged with a shred of dignity, and only barely a shred.

Vile garbage, amateurish and appalling in damn near every second. Shame on them all, especially PBS for importing it.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 04:22pm
Some funny lines. If they can keep it fresh, it could have a life. But bitchy can remain funny for only so long.

I understand what you mean by playing to the last row, but is it any different than what Jennifer and Joanna do on Ab Fab?

Poor Frances de la Tour, always playing the frustrated woman who can't get the man, either because they are too young or gay. But her bit about Zac Efron was hilarious.

Cheers to Marcia Warren who I love in The Cafe.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 05:03pm
Roscoe--I don't quite get the extreme hate. It is very old school gay-bitchy humour, but.. I will say that from watching season one completely, it gets old pretty quickly, but there are always a number of guest cameos and jokes to make it work (at least for me.)

Gotham, completely agreed about Frances--was does she always get cast in these roles? She should be leading a sitcom--but I loved her bit about Zac Ephron.
Roscoe
Broadway Legend
joined:5/15/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 05:17pm
Eric, I have to say I don't get the generosity folks are extending to this piece of excrement. I'm fine with old school gay bitchy humor, but such badly written old-school bitchy humor, good God. If that script made it into second draft I will personally blow Dick Cheney.
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." Thomas Pynchon, GRAVITY'S RAINBOW "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick My blog: http://www.roscoewrites.blogspot.com/
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 05:26pm
"Gotham, completely agreed about Frances--was does she always get cast in these roles?"

She's the UK's version of Nancy Kulp. Stuck in a stereotype and think she finally just settles back and collects a paycheck for it. I wonder how she would do in a revival of The Killing of Sister George. I wonder if that show could even play today or is it too dated?
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
PBS Tonight Vicious
Posted: 7/1/14 at 05:32pm
I do understand where Roscoe's dislike comes from. I think Derek Jacobi walking around with a limp wrist is too over the top. At least they didn't make Jacobi a hairdresser.

I think if they found the tone of more like a Noel Coward play it would be better.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.

1
Page: