Shootings! Shootings! Shootings! Today's and tomorrow's shootings!

[FindingNamo]

I can name that tune in 13 bangs.

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/oregon-college-shooting/multiple-casualties-after-shooting-umpqua-community-college-n437051?cid=sm_fb

[South Florida]

Again Sanders is touting increased funding for mental health as part of the answer to this, that makes this devotee angry.

[FindingNamo]

Bang bang shoot em up destiny.

 

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/oregon-sheriff-umpqua-massacre-white-house-gun-control-newtown

[PalJoey]

 

If Bernie were REALLY a progressive, he would be campaigning on a platform of repealing and rewriting the Second Amendment for the 21st century.

 

He is more in the pocket of the gun manufacturers than any of his supporters will allow themselves to believe.

 

 

[South Florida]

^SMH, you'll write anything.  Maybe someone should put up a list comparing donors to the relative campaigns.

[PalJoey]

 

Clinton went even further on this issue yesterday than she ever has before:She criticized the Supreme Court for its rulings expanding the Second Amendment.

 

Rulings Pistol-Packin' Bernie supports 100%. 

 

This article from a pro-gun website complains about her ultra-progressive stance on guns:

 

All Clinton is doing is courting the most progressive elements of the Democratic base, which yearns for a candidate that will challenge the NRA and enact new gun control laws. 

 

 Clinton: 'Supreme Court Is Wrong On The Second Amendment'

 

True progressives don't support the munitions industry the way Bernie does.

 

 

[South Florida]

You're going to have to back up with facts a few of your writings.

[FindingNamo]

Like you always do?   Ah ha ha ha haaaaa. 

[South Florida]

I want to know, how much money is Bernie getting from the gun lobby?  Otherwise just shut the f up.

[PalJoey]

 

Look at the links you've ignored in the Bernie/Hillary thread. I musta posted Bernie's votes in favor of the gun manufacturers two or three times.

 

 

[South Florida]

Without looking the same question remains PJ.

 

 

[PalJoey]

 

Read it and weep.

 

slate.com: BERNIE SANDERS, GUN NUT: He supported the most reprehensible pro-gun legislation in recent memory

 

This bill did not protect Vermont citizens. It did not protect Vermont gun owners.

 

It protected GUN MANUFACTURERS.

 

Why, Bernie, why? If you're so progressive on so many issues, why are you so "reprehensible" on guns?

 

And why do so many progressives turn a blind eye toward Bernie's gun nuttiness?

 

 

[sabrelady]

I'm at a point that I hafta think this is some kinda selection process of population control.

OR you really like killing each other.

[South Florida]

You go on and on and yet produce no reason to believe he is in the pockets of the gun manufacturers.  Show me their donations to his campaign, explain to me why the NRA gives him a D-, or an F, I've read both.  Why should this one thing, as important as it is, supersede all the issues important to me that he blows Clinton away on?

[darquegk]

I'm not a Sanders supporter (the SNL title Human Lorax sums him up well), but don't socialism and anti-gun legislature sort of part ways ideologically? One would think a drive to reform with the former would likely provoke a theoretical violent response, necessitating defense.

[South Florida]

The Clinton supporters have nothing other than the theory she can win and bring the right kind of SC judges that are inevitably going to come about?  In the next 4 years?  No morality, no stick up for the poor, sad.

 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

You're gonna have to be committed when he loses the primary.

[PalJoey]

 

Oh,m stop with the Headband yapping about her supposed lack of morality. 

 

She's got plenty of morality and integrity and, in the end, she will accomplish more for the poor--and the forgotten middle class--than Bernie ever could manage to accomplish in his pie-eyed dreams.

 

 

[FindingNamo]

Hey kids, let's focus on the shootings (at least Bernie hasn't said "Stuff happens" yet), which this thread was created for:

11 year old boy charged with murder in the first degree over shooting of 8 year old girl.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-11-charged-with-murder-in-tennessee-8-year-olds-death/

 

 

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

I don't even know how to respond to this story.  I keep reading it trying to make sense of it because the details are scant, but somehow this was a situation where an 11 year old had two guns at his disposal. The BB gun was probably his, right? That we still have BB guns in 2015... you think they'd have gone the way of candy cigarettes, but nope. It's crazy.  

 

I pity the kid, having grown up in a redneck family that consider guns a hobby, like reading or collecting stamps.  The parents are the kind of  people who probably forward the Facebook memes that joke about shooting their teenage daughter's dates or some other thing where the punchline is about someone is gonna get shot. This boy was almost certainly raised to believe that a gun is the answer to anything life throws at you and he was probably taught to fetishize them at any early age.  And these are the kind of people who post comments on those articles, never able to once examine the fact that a culture that fetishize guns will inevitably lead to tragedies such as this.  

 

I wish I go could say I'm going somewhere with this, but I'm just so defeated by it.  

[FindingNamo]

The first article I read mentioned thoughts and prayers.  Thoughts and prayers!!!!!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

I'm thinking about praying!  Not thinking about it like I'm considering praying, I'm just thinking about what it's like to pray.  I guess I do kind of pray I'm never murdered by a gun, but this is America, so I could be murdered by a gun at any time, and it would most likely be by someone I knew! 

[FindingNamo]

It can happen here.  And nobody's going to do anything about it because stuff happens.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

When Jesus made America, he made with it a Gun Covenent. 

[SNAFU]

This story saddened me to no end. My father was a gun nut. When he died a few years back I had ti transport his guns, 15 in all across state lines. I was libel for them if they were stolen from his home or his crazy girlfriend decided to use them. He gave my younger brother a BB gun as a Christmas gift when he was 10 and a 22 when he was 12. I sort of know the mindset of this kid's parents.

 

[lotiloti]

Phyllis Rogers Stone said: "When Jesus made America, he made with it a Gun Covenent.

Did Jesus,  'make America' 

I thought it was purloined from the native American indians

 

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