Shootings! Shootings! Shootings! Today's and tomorrow's shootings!

[FindingNamo]

Sources?

[Liza's Headband]

Sure! Here's one of many... 

 

Officials: San Bernardino shooter apparently radicalized, in touch with terror subjects

[ErikJ972]

From the source you provided...

 

"Still, it wasn't necessarily the only driver behind the carnage, as workplace grievances may have also played a role. President Barack Obama hinted as much Thursday when he said that the attackers may have had "mixed motives.""

[Liza's Headband]

Yes, Erik. That is what's known as "mixed" or "blended" motivation in the world of intelligence. It doesn't negate the motivation of radicalization and extremism. A domestic issue -- like discontent in the workplace -- merely serves as the catalyst for the terror. Two perfect examples of this:

• September 2014 Oklahoma Beheading
• June 2015 France Beheading & Gas Plant Attack

I'm not sure what anyone gains by denying the suggestion that he was radicalized and in contact with numerous terror suspects. As humans why do we, by nature, "prefer" attributing violence to criminal activity or domestic issues over actual terrorism? Either way, all I can say is that it's obvious to me he was radicalized. He would not be building over a dozen pipe bombs in his garage if he wasn't. Sorry. 

[CarlosAlberto]

How anyone cannot see this as an act of terrorism is beyond me. C'mon now! So far what the investigation has uncovered points all of this in that direction. 

 

 

[Liza's Headband]

Carlos -- many would rather call it "workplace violence" or "criminal violence." I assume they are scared of calling it terrorism because that would mean another radical Islamist has committed domestic/international terrorism... and that goes against whatever politically correct agenda they have. 

[ErikJ972]

No. I would just rather wait until all of the facts come out instead of jumping to conclusions like a moron.

[CarlosAlberto]

It's being reported the FBI is seeing links to terrorism in regards to this attack. 

 

And even if these obviously radicalized murderers don't have direct links to ISIS, what they did and how they did it is still an act of terrorism. 

[Petralicious]

Liza's Headband said: "Carlos -- many would rather call it "workplace violence" or "criminal violence." I assume they are scared of calling it terrorism because that would mean another radical Islamist has committed domestic/international terrorism... and that goes against whatever politically correct agenda they have. 

 

" If you were not such a name caller person on this boards people might agree with you more

 

[SNAFU]

I agree Carlos. Acts of terrorism are not mutualy exclusive to ISIL or Islamic Extremists.

[FindingNamo]

Just look at what the headband tries to do on these boards.

[Jane2]

^ haha, Namo.

 

Anyway, of course it's terrorism. Some people can't put two and two together.

[Liza's Headband]

^ Yes, Jane, like many of your "friends" on this Board who simply refuse to agree with the use of the word terrorism despite the fact that the suspect was building pipe bombs, owned over 2,000 rounds of ammunition, black tactical gear and rented a specialized vehicle for the military-style assault on Wednesday. 

[Mister Matt]

Yes, Jane, like many of your "friends" on this Board who?...

 

You might as well just delete anything you type after that.  

[Jane2]

yeah, what do you mean by that statement, headband?

[FindingNamo]

Who refuses to say terrorism?  The poor 'band must be thinking of other "centrist" Republicans like himself who won't say it about the Planned Parenthood terror attacks. 

[SNAFU]

Seems Headband lives in her own world of make believe.

 

[PalJoey]

 

No one refuses to say terrorism. Stop trivializing important issues with your failed attempts at being Missy Von Know-It-All.

 

 

[FindingNamo]

Ha ha.  What a maroon. Always taking the opposing view in a debate nobody's having!

[Auggie27]

NBC Chuck just Toddsplained that all murderers are insane, period, no discussion.  (He had to read "Crime and Punishment" in Survey of World Lit and has a photographic memory; for Monarch Notes.)  And a "leading expert" just explained that Farook was radicalized because he's a child of divorce and alcoholism.  We're gonna need more metal detectors at ACOA meetings.  It's a day for being schooled by experts. About everything.

[Jane2]

Having an explosive device to be detonated by remote at the site, having a home that was turned into an arsenal, having a bag full of 13 bombs, thousands of rounds of ammo, etc. It doesn't matter  to me what an expert says beyond that evidence.

 

.p.s. the only person who seems to refuse to say the word terrorism is B. Obama.

[Auggie27]

Gee, I don't think my irony landed.  Not the first time.  

[ErikJ972]

[Liza's Headband]

.p.s. the only person who seems to refuse to say the word terrorism is B. Obama.

 

Oh, Jane. You're not surprised, are you? By the way... the suspects deleted their e-mail accounts, destroyed their cell phones, and hid several hard drives. 

 

Anyone else still hesitant to agree this is clearly international terrorism?? Erik? Matt? Namo? 

 

P.S. for Namo -- that horrible jackass in Colorado Springs was terrorist; he committed domestic terrorism. Not sure if/when I've ever denied that. 

[ErikJ972]

You kind of love arguing with yourself don't you Liza? Is being contrary the only way you know how to interact with people?

No one in this thread ever said that it could not be a case of international terrorism. At the time of your original post yesterday not one law enforcement agency or government official would come out and say it was terrorism. Some of us just don't like to jump to conclusions. Like you do. But no one here said that international terrorism was out of the realm of possibility.

But have fun arguing with yourself. It clearly makes you feel superior in some way. 

[Jane2]

How is that  "jumping to conclusions?" IMO,  it's obvious. What more do they need, the baby to say his parents told him they were terrorists?