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#75HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 1:32pmThank you, Whizzer! The plot makes sense now. Sounds pretty damn dry, though.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
#76HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 1:43pm
The problem with most of the plot's action is that it happens off-stage or before the start of the play begins. We don't get to watch it happen- we only hear about it, and that's where the confusion sets in.
They never firmly establish the Saul/Jackson/Saycon relationship. We don't get to watch Saul getting arrested or Jackson's rise to prominence or Benny getting shot. Hell we barely get to meet Benny except for two seconds in the opening sequence. As mentioned the Four Fives never appear on stage, although they are the main source of conversation for the drug dealers. Jackson has a daughter who is never seen.
Saul gets the worst treatment of the lot. Though he is a co-lead we discover almost nothing about his life. Most of his dialogue is spouting political rhetoric or messages of social activism. He acts more like a narrator inserted to the story than a fleshed out character.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
dave1606
Broadway Star Joined: 12/8/07
#77HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 1:49pm
I saw this last night and what really bothered me about it was how separate the music and the book scenes were. They seemed to have little to do with one another.
The story is murky at best. I think that the biggest mistake is making the Four Five a faceless gang. They never seemed like much of a threat or a character as we never saw them. Overall, the whole thing comes across like an afterschool special.
I will say that to give credit where credit is due. Even though it comes out of NOWHERE, California Love is brilliantly staged and was one of the few moments of excitement in the show. It was the only time I found this justifying itself as a musical.
The staging is very ugly. for the most part Characters are standing in front of dark black walls (that occasionally have projections). Cheap is definitely the word that came to mind.
The cast is very talented, but the material just isn't worthy. The piece also suffers from "town" musical syndrome where the entire cast shows up in a scene without warning or explanation.
JeffDaEgg2
Stand-by Joined: 7/29/08
#78HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 1:53pmI swear the two guys with guns came from the wings after California Love and not randomly out of the car. Hmmm, apparently I was on Christopher Jackson's drugs.
#79HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 1:57pmJeff- You're correct. The guys did come from the wings with the guns. It's two of the male ensemble who were dancing during California Love that dove into the backseat of the car to hide when the gunmen walked in that made people laugh.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
Wilmingtom
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/11
#80HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 2:07pmWhat Whizzer says. The lack of dramatic action cripples the storytelling, no matter how valuable to other contributions to the production.
#82HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 2:17pm
Since most of the hooks are samples from other songs, I can only imagine that this list of composers is quite long. From the California Love article on Wikipedia:
The original version contains a sample taken from Joe Cocker's 1972 song "Woman to Woman". The remix version contains a sample taken from Kleeer's 1984 song "Intimate Connection". The chorus, "California knows how to party", was sung by Roger Troutman using his characteristic talk box and was taken from the 1982 song "West Coast Poplock" by Ronnie Hudson & The Street People which was written by Larry Troutman and Roger Troutman. In the song where Troutman sings "shake it, shake it baby", he interpolates the chant he used on his 1982 Zapp single, "Dance Floor".
Dr. Dre usually gets a lot of credit for writing/producing this track.
You would have to go through each song one by one and I'm sure it would add up to dozens of songwriters.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
#83HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 2:22pm
Are there no composer credits in the Playbill?
I think I'm more disturbed that no one seems to care who wrote the music than that no one knows who wrote the music.
I mean - a lot of these songs are musically entirely different things than they were when first recorded, aren't they?
#84HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 2:28pm
Oh! I found a "music credits" page in the back in small print. The first song, My Block, has EIGHT people credited for writing the music. All lyrics are by Tupac.
I wouldn't say they are musically different at all. I mean they are orchestrated and arranged (e.g. the entire ensemble sings "California, knows how to party" instead of just one guy) but they are the same music you would find on his albums.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
#85HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 2:34pm
Really? Please do correct me if I'm wrong, never having paid a lot of attention to Shakur's oeuvre, bur wasn't the bulk of his output rap - spoken word over a repeated simple line of music or rhythm?
The bits of these songs I've heard sound much more sung than the stuff of Shakur's with which I'm familiar.
#86HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 3:07pmFor all those in attendance last night, what was the running time?
A little swash, a bit of buckle - you'll love it more than bread.
#87HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 3:16pmI wasn't there, but it was posted at 10:50p yesterday that the show had ended 10 minutes earlier.
brdway411
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/24/14
#88HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 3:23pmit started about 8:10, and we were out by 10:40. so about 2.5 hours with intermission.
#89HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 3:25pmThank you!
A little swash, a bit of buckle - you'll love it more than bread.
#90HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 3:44pm
newintown- Tupac himself didn't do much singing, you're correct, but it seems that most hit rap songs have a guest singer who comes on to sing the hook.
Like if there were ever to be an Eminem jukebox musical, someone would rap the Eminem portions of "Monster" and then someone else would sing the Rihanna hook portion.
An actor raps the Tupac portion of California love and then the entire ensemble sings the Roger Troutman sung hook, but that sung part was always in the song. It was originally just sung by one man and now has been arranged and orchestrated to sound like a full ensemble number, but no new music was written.
Marie: Don't be in such a hurry about that pretty little chippy in Frisco.
Tony: Eh, she's a no chip!
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#91HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:14pm
I ran out at intermission. The only thing I can say is that it's not even offensively bad. It's just boring. Just plain boring.
Although I do question how the use of the N-word every 3 seconds can possibly be deemed 'poetry'...
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Rainbowhigh23
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/29/12
#92HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:30pmThere was no storyline to make it other than a number of Tupac's rap songs strung together with dance sequences. I too was bored out of my skull and fell asleep during act 1. I stayed for Act 2 because the musical performances are very well done and loud.
#93HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:42pm
"Although I do question how the use of the N-word every 3 seconds can possibly be deemed 'poetry'..."
Poetry or any art is not defined by how palatable the language or images are. Even though I haven't seen this show, it seems to me (in this case) the N-word sounds like it is probably very appropriate and poetically effective given the subject matter.
brdway411
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/24/14
#94HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:49pm
It was part of the language of the show. And to me seemed appropriate. It's really no worse than HASA DIGA EBOWAH song.
Updated On: 6/4/14 at 11:49 PM
A Director
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/18/07
#95HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:50pm
>I ran out at intermission. The only thing I can say is that it's not even offensively bad. It's just boring. Just plain boring.
Although I do question how the use of the N-word every 3 seconds can possibly be deemed 'poetry'...
If I had to choice between seeing Holler If Ya Hear Me and something called Shades of Blue: The Decline and Fall of Lady Day, I'd pick the first one. The second one sounds like a rip off of a show currently running.
#96HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/3/14 at 11:52pm
"It's really no worse than HASA DIGA ETOWAH in Book of Mormon."
So the n-word is only equally as bad as three made-up words?! 
#97HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/4/14 at 12:08amI find it amusing that nobody can remember the characters names! It's just Saul and Jackson and Saycon.
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#98HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/4/14 at 12:11am
My reaction to the show:
I went in with the lowest expectations, and was surprised that there was merit in the work. The piece has a lot of potential to be an impactful work of art. They need to trim 10-15 minutes of unneeded material, tighten all the cues, and smooth out the transitions; and, they need to do this immediately. It's very typical for a show to have those issues in previews, but it's absolutely deadly for a show like this, where many in the audience may not be accostumed to the style of music. It's killing the potential for any positive word of mouth.
Which brings me to my largest complaint: the producing. This is a show that could have benefited from an out of town tryout. It could have benefited from being in a smaller theater. It could benefit from much better marketing. It could benefit from not having patrons walk into a theater and having empty seats facing a solid wall be what they first see. Even if the creative team can improve the material, it won't matter at all if the show closes. I admire the artistic efforts and wish the show success, but it's frustrating to see the imminite doom due to poor producing.
"The Spectacle has, indeed, an emotional attraction of its own, but, of all the parts, it is the least artistic, and connected least with the art of poetry. For the power of Tragedy, we may be sure, is felt even apart from representation and actors. Besides, the production of spectacular effects depends more on the art of the stage machinist than on that of the poet."
--Aristotle
Updated On: 6/4/14 at 12:11 AM
--Aristotle
#99HOLLER IF YA HEAR ME Previews
Posted: 6/4/14 at 12:29am
I saw this tonight and agree completely that the producing is really hurting the show. I will say, despite the show having some great moments (all of them songs, not scenes), I was utterly bored almost the entire time. While I appreciated what they were trying to do, it really just missed the mark. There was no plot and the little that did happen, happened off stage. Also, the set design was non-existent. I thought there were some phenomenal songs. Holler If Ya Hear Me, California Love and Dear Mama among them. Also when there was true choreography it was energetic and perfect for the show. I also was really impressed with the lighting design. It wasn't without flaws, but design-wise was the strongest element.
There was a technical difficulty going into the last scene of the first act, although it didn't stop the show. A stage manager's voice was heard however. Also, where I was sitting, the audio levels were very off at times, with the orchestra being way too loud for much of the show. These things will likely be fixed in the next few performances.
I thought Christopher Jackson and Ben Thompson were standouts. Ben's voice is awesome! Also, I wish Tonya Pinkins had more to do, but nothing we can change about that.
