There will be no catastrophe so ghastly that America will reform it's gun laws

Jay Lerner-Z
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Do you own a firearm, kade?
AKA "Kitty" O'Hare
SNAFU
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The Framers of the Constitution knew the Fledgeling Country, had no standing army after the Continental Army was disbanded and required it's citizenry to be able to grab their rifles be called into service in case of attack.

Once the US assembled the US Army 3 June 1784, the second admendment could have been admended. I guess no one saw the need. Then again no one knew we would have assault weapons and high volume clips.
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kade.ivy
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Jay Lerner-Z
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Have you ever fired it?
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kade.ivy
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No, I have it on my wall next to my Ted Nugent vinyls. I stare at if while I eat 5 pounds of bacon and listen to Toby Keith.

Yes, I've fired my firearm and other hunting rifles for sport. I'm not 21 yet so I can't purchase or conceal carry.

Updated On: 6/4/14 at 10:56 PM
Jay Lerner-Z
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Ah, I see. So your earlier militia reasoning was largely irrelevant to your own situation.

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Updated On: 6/4/14 at 11:06 PM
kade.ivy
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Not really. I could defend with a hunting rifle. Not as well as I could with the AK-47 I intend to purchase at some point, but it would make do.
SNAFU
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I find it amazing that every gun enthusiast I know immediately jumps to regulation of guns, background checks, a waiting period, is taking away everyone's gun or abolishing the second admendment. My half brother is one of them.
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Jay Lerner-Z
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Why do you intend to buy an AK-47 and what do you plan to do with it?



AKA "Kitty" O'Hare
Updated On: 6/4/14 at 11:22 PM
Reginald Tresilian
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And tell us how it's in line with what the framers of the Constitution envisioned.
SNAFU
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I doubt there will be a logical answer. "Because I can and don't screw with my rights." is the arguement.
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kade.ivy
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I don't want to be involved in these stale arguments of "Assault rifles weren't in the Constitution" and "Do you really need a gun that big?"
PalJoey
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Open-carry activists are a godsend to liberals.








Open-carry activists make all Second Amendment folk look dangerous and scarily insane.


Do you want these people in your CVS? Do they make you feel safe?





Especially in the kiddie department at your local Target.


yr pal,
joey




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SNAFU
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Boy, I bet their d*cks are HUGE!

What about the stale responses that background checks and waiting periods are the Left's wanting to destroy the second admendment and make guns illegal?

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Updated On: 6/4/14 at 11:56 PM
Jordan Catalano
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"I don't want to be involved in these stale arguments of "Assault rifles weren't in the Constitution" and "Do you really need a gun that big?"

Because you know you have no logical response to it. None of you white trash hillbilly inbred 'Murca lovin' cousin screwin', sister plowin' God fearin' folk don't not never got no re-sponse to logical questions what come you's all too dang busy beatin' off to Hannity to get you's some real edumacations.

And I say that as a southerner, born and raised.
Everyone is aware that "Sutton Ross" used to go by "Sue Storm". Right?
FindingNamo
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I don't want to be involved in these stale arguments of "Assault rifles weren't in the Constitution" and "Do you really need a gun that big?"

Because you don't have any fresh answers that don't make you sound like a thoughtless nut?
It's a little creepy but it would be worse if you knew what you were talking about.
EricMontreal22
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...

Because an argument seems "stale," which in this case I take to mean "old," does not mean they don't gain in relevance. It's fine to complain that they are tired arguments--but when examples continue to pile up that the fact that those "rights" do continue exist in the "land of the free," and yet it more deaths that are *directly* caused by those rights increase compared to other "free" nations that don't have those rights is much harder to complain about than saying an argument is stale.
Updated On: 6/5/14 at 01:38 AM
EricMontreal22
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As others have said. The US has the *fourth* highest gun violence *per capita* in the world. For anyone to draw the conclusion that gun laws play no part in that seems to merely state that they think they live with an insanely violent group of people in a violent country and that nothing can be done about it. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murders-with-firearms
EricMontreal22
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"I am arguing (and think that the language of the amendment suggests) that a free state requires a militia, i.e., an amateur citizenry prepared to defend the "free" state. "

Can you give an example in the past 100(+) years where this has helped ANY democratic country? Do you really see a future so bleak that it COULD or would save any democratic country? Paris wouldn't have been saved from the Occupation by having more men wandering the streets with guns. London's Blitz wouldn't have been. 9/11 wouldn't have been any different.
EricMontreal22
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My dad while I grew up worked off and on for the Irish government and I would spend Summers with him. Seeing guards at department stores and theatres carrying assault rifles never made me feel safer--it scared the crap out of me. And I know it never made my dad feel safer, or any of his friends (nor did it stop any bombs that happened.) I can't imagine going to a department store and seeing someone just "doing their shopping" carrying a gun would make any sane person feel safer (and I admit, I just don't get gun culture--I don't understand how anyone with a rifle would feel safer carrying one on them. Call me paranoid, but I would be scared crapless that I would accidentally fire it and injure or kill myself, or, worse, injure or kill someone else. And I honestly think anyone who lives in a country they *want to live in* and feels they need to arm themselves is paranoid, and not living a happy life.)
Jane2
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I'm also disgusted that he hunts for sport. That's a whole Nother topic.
<-----craves juicy pizza
ErikJ972
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Hey parents! Don't worry about gun violence because now you can send your kids to school with a bullet proof blanket. Made out of the same material the military uses. So now when someone with an automatic weapon bursts into your kids school they can cower safely under a bullet proof blanket!
Life in America in 2014. Thanks 2nd amendment!
Gun Control Measures Are Going Nowhere, So Here's a Bulletproof Blanket for Your Kids
CarlosAlberto
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I live for a Jordan Catalano read. Jordan that was a priceless post! You rock.
kade.ivy
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Jane, I never said I hunt for sport.
ErikJ972
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I think it's important to remember kade.ivy is a member of a very vocal MINORITY.
No, really, Americans support gun control
Borstalboy
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Even the NRA is backing away from the insanity of the open carriers. With some hope, this will devour itself from the inside like the GOP.

In which case, I say: GO open carriers!!!
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