Why is nobody talking about the Jersey Boys Movie?- Page 3

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 1:11am

I'm the QUEEN. Bow down to me.

Time for a coup? Anyway, OP, you could always start a JB movie thread or add to the existing ones. Help generate the discussion instead of saying there is none.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 1:14am

Also, there's something about the word "freaking" that made the first post a little off.

[Patash]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 8:07am

I'm confused why so many people seemed to be saying "why should we be talking about a movie musical that hasn't even come out yet?" as if the OP was asking a dumb question. Ummm. Has anyone noticed that a movie musical version of Into the Woods is coming out? LIke this one, there's nothing to talk about? Is that why there are a few hundred comments on that thread?

[haterobics]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 10:03am

I think the disconnect is that asking why no one is talking about it is still not talking about it nor starting a conversation about it. If you frame a discussion from a place of questioning disinterest, and it attracts people who stop and tell you why they are disinterested in the movie, then you have achieved your goal by most Internet standards.

If the conversation was about aspects of the show, what should be included, cut, who should have been cast, is this a good film for Eastwood... well, no one started that conversation on BWW. You need to start the conversation you want to have for it to happen.

If you compare the number of Jersey Boys threads to Sondheim threads (or even ITW threads), there wouldn't be any surprise by this reaction. Jersey Boys just rarely gets discussed here. Not sure if that was always the case, but I can't recall a thread of JB showing up in recent memory.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 10:12am

I think the disconnect comes from the fact that the OP demands we speak of this Jersey Boys movie because he or she is the "Queen."

Um...No.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 10:20am

Well said, Haterobics, well said!


When people start a thread to complain about something, it is just an invitation to, well, complain.


And I'll agree: I've never seen much chatter on here about Jersey Boys in general. That's always been my thought on even seeing the show -- simply not on my radar, it's not something I care about, even though I willing admit that everyone I know that HAS seen it, has loved it.

Better no chatter than anti-chatter!

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 10:21am

Is there a scene where Frankie sings to an empty chair?

[BroadwayStar4]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 1:27pm

"I think the disconnect is that asking why no one is talking about it is still not talking about it nor starting a conversation about it."

Actually, we could have had a conversation about the movie and talked about why nobody seems to be interested in this movie. Instead of giving me answers like "well, it looks like it's gonna suck", or "the casting is all wrong" or "the costumes and settings is not bright or flashy enough", or "because it doesn't look like they did the Broadway version any justice...", I get rude, sarcastic comments. Which is all fine by me, I can play the snarky game if you want, but this thread could have led to a discussion about the Jersey Boys movie, or even Jersey Boys in general.

Why start a thread with "Is this a good film for Eastwood?" when I'm probably gonna get like 1 or 2 replies since clearly nobody here is even interested in talking about it, which is why there's barely been any threads about this movie in the first place.

"When people start a thread to complain about something, it is just an invitation to, well, complain."

I didn't start this thread complaining. I was asking a legitimate question.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 1:59pm

You REALLY don't think the original post could be perceived as a complaint? Really?

[BroadwayStar4]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 2:05pm

Is it because I said "freakin'"? Is that the issue?

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 2:14pm

I didn't even know you said that... But how could one not perceived the post as a complaint. You're clearly annoyed and/or upset that no one is talking about it.

[BroadwayStar4]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 2:15pm

Not really. Just wondering.

[Someone in a Tree2]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 2:18pm

"...Everyone I know that HAS seen [The jersey Boys], has loved it."

I guess we're the exception then. We saw the 1st national tour in SF and found it the quintessential meh show. A standard issue "and then we wrote" kind of script with perfectly fine renditions of Four Seasons numbers that could have been at home on any upscale cruise ship or Vegas showroom. The show that for us gave Jukebox Musicals their bad name.

(Once upon a time back in the 70's, Broadway really knew how to make the jukebox form sing and dance. I'm thinking fondly of the performances I saw in Sophisticated Ladies and Ain't Misbehavin', some of the greatest I've ever seen.)

Will I go see the movie? You bet! I'm always interested in seeing how smart movie-makers try their hand at that rarest of cinematic beasts, the movie musical, good or bad.

Updated On: 5/31/14 at 02:18 PM

[Everlast85]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 2:40pm

As soon as you edit or apologize for calling yourself a queen and asking people to bow down to you, perhaps a discussion can continue. Until then? You're just an obnoxious person who started a thread complaining about something. Don't expect people to engage with you.

[BroadwayStar4]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 3:11pm

"As soon as you edit or apologize for calling yourself a queen and asking people to bow down to you, perhaps a discussion can continue. Until then? You're just an obnoxious person who started a thread complaining about something. Don't expect people to engage with you."

First of all, I was just joking about being a queen. Take a joke.

Second of all, I didn't start this thread complaining. I was just asking a question.

Third of all, Go screw yourself.

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 4:27pm

LOL

[A Director]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 5:40pm

BroadwayStar4 - The reason nobody is talking about the Jersey Boys movie is because the songs don't have appeal for most Musical Comedy Mavens and Queens. It's a safe bet some of them, 8 years later, are still upset The Drowsy Chaperone (or The Color Purple or The Wedding Singer) didn't win the 2006 Best Musical Tony. None of their favorite Divas have appeared in the show onstage or are in the movie. Have a look at the Holler If Ya Hear Me discussion, these are the same people who have convinced themselves the show will flop.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 5:51pm

I've never seen ANY of those complaints surface here. Not once. In fact, I've heard a number of people sing the praises of some of the performers that have appeared in the show.

Why do you think its so wrong for people to have a negative opinion?

[broadwaybabywannabe2]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 9:11pm

clint eastwood...is the answer to your main question...he is not what I think when I think BROADWAY MUSICALS...:)

[tazber]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 9:52pm

Productive thread everyone.

Good work.

Updated On: 6/1/14 at 09:52 PM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 5/31/14 at 11:21pm

I've never seen ANY of those complaints surface here. Not once. In fact, I've heard a number of people sing the praises of some of the performers that have appeared in the show.


I guess it's time to link this thread, which was a great fun time for those of us who rushed the show regularly in SF. :) https://forum.broadwayworld.com/readmessage.php?thread=929933

Like I said earlier, the show has been discussed here for years, but it pretty concentrated threads. Not particularly spread out.

[BobNC]

Posted: 6/1/14 at 10:39am

After rushing to my cineplex a few Xmas mornings ago, to see the film version of Nine, my all time favorite musical, I've given up hope in film directors --regardless of how talented they might be-- of ever capturing the magic of the original version. I will see Jersey Boys on its opening days. I just will enter the multiplex with very low expectations.

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/1/14 at 11:09am

"The reason nobody is talking about the Jersey Boys movie is because the songs don't have appeal for most Musical Comedy Mavens and Queens. It's a safe bet some of them, 8 years later, are still upset The Drowsy Chaperone (or The Color Purple or The Wedding Singer) didn't win the 2006 Best Musical Tony. None of their favorite Divas have appeared in the show onstage or are in the movie."

I think it is that the movie skews to an older demographic, with no known stars, so by the nature of those things, there is less to discuss. You need a younger audience base to puzzle over marketing strategies, trailer placements, buzz, etc. As I originally stated, and I would somewhat fit your categorization above: I love the music of The Four Seasons, and the week it comes out, I'll check Rotten Tomatoes, if it isn't alarmingly low, I will attend. But, prior to that, I don't really get pre-excited for events, because I have other things to do before then.

"Have a look at the Holler If Ya Hear Me discussion, these are the same people who have convinced themselves the show will flop."

I've only said that the show selling almost no seats, with no marketing campaign, and no information what the show even is... so I'm unclear why they think anyone would buy seats to such an unknown quantity. If they thought it would move tickets based on it being based on Tupac, that clearly isn't working. Plus, no out of town preview, just right on Times Square in a large-ish theater. They are certainly stacking the deck. But, hey, I'm all for shows doing well despite their marketing team's efforts.

[darquegk]

Posted: 6/1/14 at 11:57am

Plus, this isn't QUITE a movie musical in the traditional sense. Much like the stage show, it's more of a biopic-mockumentary, not something where characters sing and dance because that's just what is happening in this form.

Here's a question: Do you think Eastwood's nebulous political allegiances will hurt him in creating a movie musical, a genre traditionally made and attended primarily by left-leaning people?

[haterobics]

Posted: 6/1/14 at 12:00pm

Yeah, I don't understand the resistance to Eastwood because, as you said, it is not a musical like Hairspray. It is a drama set in the 50s about a singing group, who only sing when they are actually singing as The Four Seasons.

I don't think Eastwood's personal life has any bearing. The movie is good or not good, and soon, we will know which it is.