You are so wrong toronto

Simon Damon
Stand-by
joined:2/26/14
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 02:56am
Toronto made me feel Aladdin was going to close in 3 months made me think the musical was crap and so did this board. Can someone explain to me why everyone thought this will close.
Jordan Catalano
Broadway Legend
joined:10/9/05
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 02:59am
I'd rather explain to you how to use proper punctuation.
dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 05:07am
1. They did it to piss you off.
2. It will close. Aside from Phantom, EVERYTHING will close.
3. Will this be a success? Way too early to know for sure.
4. What Jordan said.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
tazber
Broadway Legend
joined:5/10/05
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 07:16am
....but the world goes 'round
ARTc3
Broadway Star
joined:8/5/13
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 08:07am
Simon Damon, it says you've been here since 26 Feb 14. If that is true (my stats have been reset several times), then you've learned that the opinions here are wide and often unreliable as a reflection of one's own tastes rather quickly. Consider yourself lucky.

When I became obsessed with this board, I'd often arrive at shows with an expectation based on what I read here. After many disappointments and an equal number of "pleasant surprises" I have learned what you are learning now: to each his/her own.

If you stick around long enough, you'll find an affinity to certain posters who share likeminded tastes. Even then you might be surprised at how important it is to remain open minded when going to the theater.
ARTc3 formerly ARTc. Actually been a poster since 2004. My name isn't Art. Drop the "3" and say the signature and you'll understand.
Updated On: 3/24/14 at 08:07 AM
JustJakUK
Chorus Member
joined:5/15/06
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 09:18am
You guys are seriously bitchy on here and need to learn some manners! Yes Simon's punctuation isn't great, but don't belittle him for it!! Simon, take everything that you read on here with a pintch of salt. I'm an industry insider and professionals don't act as nasty as you guys.....
PalJoey
Broadway Legend
joined:3/11/04
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 09:29am


Did you really just call us "bitchy" and "nasty" then say WE should learn manners?

Why don'tcha stay on yer own side of the pond and learn some manners there, limey?

yr pal,
joey




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JustJakUK
Chorus Member
joined:5/15/06
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 09:34am
A very articulate and classy response I see!
ARTc3
Broadway Star
joined:8/5/13
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 09:37am
JustJakUK, there is a lot of "nasty" here. Yet again, I highly recommend the "ignore" feature. I used to let some of the negativity hurt my feelings. Since "ignore" and the decision to just not read those posters who I find rude, being here is infinitely more fun.

Simon Damon, I hope that the punctuation remarks don't hinder your willingness to post. Your ideas are just as welcome as the next poster.

As for proper punctuation... It helps in coming off here as articulate. However, it is only one tool and should never be used to stifle one's voice. Type away, I, and I suspect many others, are reading.

ARTc3 formerly ARTc. Actually been a poster since 2004. My name isn't Art. Drop the "3" and say the signature and you'll understand.
Updated On: 3/24/14 at 09:37 AM
yankeefan7
Broadway Legend
joined:4/14/12
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 04:09pm
First, you have to remember it was out of town tryout and things probably have changed since it was in Toronto. Like others have said, people on this board will probably have different opinions then you regarding any show. From the reviews I have read, it seems generally positive and with it being a "Disney" show I think it will probably last awhile. (maybe 2-3 yrs).
Mr. Nowack
Broadway Star
joined:2/2/14
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 04:19pm
Even PHANTOM will close someday.

I was previously known as Mr. Nowak (Joined: 5/20/13).
Updated On: 3/24/14 at 04:19 PM
oasisjeff
Broadway Star
joined:11/15/07
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 04:19pm
Online reviews are the breeding ground for the extremes. If you loved something, you write a review. If you hated it, you write a review. People who enjoyed it or thought it could be a bit better... they just go home and get on with their lives. So, trying to read the tea leaves between the one- and five-star reviews is a risky proposition.

Basing opinions entirely on out of town tryouts and preview reviews is never going to be foolproof.

I always liked the movie Aladdin, bought a discounted ticket when they first went on sale, and am looking to going tomorrow. I didn't really pay attention to what people said here, and still haven't. I only saw this since it wasn't in the Aladdin threads that I'm ignoring until tomorrow night...
Now t/d/b/a haterobics on here.
bwayto
Leading Actor
joined:12/5/11
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 07:03pm
Aladdin was a tryout in Toronto, and the reviewers noted things that worked, and things that didn't. Things have changed between the two, and the producers obviously took note of what worked and what didn't.

Don't blame Toronto for giving you the wrong impression. Aladdin in TO and Aladdin in NY are not the same.
Alan Henry
Senior Editor, BWW Toronto
alan@broadwayworld.com
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend
joined:7/22/03
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 07:06pm
I'm gonna give PalJoey a pintch for valuing the English language.
yes, you
blaxx
Broadway Legend
joined:6/28/05
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 07:14pm
made me think the musical was crap and so did this board

So, it's not crap?
Listen, I don't take my clothes off for anyone, even if it is "artistic". - JANICE
oasisjeff
Broadway Star
joined:11/15/07
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 07:16pm
To be fair, you are missing an important option.

It could get good reviews, it could play a long time, and you could STILL think it is crap.
Now t/d/b/a haterobics on here.
FishermanBob
Broadway Legend
joined:7/9/12
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 08:05pm
I blame Rob Ford. It's his fault Toronto made you feel that way.
Platypus
Stand-by
joined:11/13/07
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 08:16pm
As a Torontonian, this thread offends me
sabrelady
Broadway Legend
joined:5/16/03
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 11:05pm
U r all jus h8rs an bullies! Tronto din do nothin to nobudy! u jes a mean ee! Sucs 2 b u!!!
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Jordan Catalano
Broadway Legend
joined:10/9/05
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 11:15pm
Thas no even propper english words ur useing.
SweetLips
Broadway Star
joined:1/23/13
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/24/14 at 11:23pm
Hasty delete.

Updated On: 3/24/14 at 11:23 PM
bwayto
Leading Actor
joined:12/5/11
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/25/14 at 01:00am
As a Torontonian, I just find this thread in bad taste.

And leave Rob Ford out of this. Thank GOD, at least he keeps away from our theatres.
Alan Henry
Senior Editor, BWW Toronto
alan@broadwayworld.com
JMPlayer6
Featured Actor
joined:2/7/10
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/25/14 at 01:34pm
To the original poster (just curious): Because of how Toronto made you feel, did you made any decisions (financial, planning or otherwise) that you'd have done differently if Toronto had made you feel differently?
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Borstalboy
Broadway Legend
joined:2/9/04
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/25/14 at 01:44pm

Toronto is CLASS. New York is SLEE-ZEEEE!

"It's now rather very common to hear people say 'I'm rather offended by that'. As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more than a whine. It has no meaning, no purpose. It has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that'. Well, so f**king what?"--Stephen Fry
ARTc3
Broadway Star
joined:8/5/13
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/25/14 at 02:01pm
Toronto is the third great theater city: 1 and 2) New York and London; 3) Toronto. As a New Yorker who loves Toronto (I have been many times over many years), I honor Toronto as the theater city it is and understand why it is often used as a try-out city.

It is my hope that the original poster didn't mean any offense to Toronto or Torontonians. I think the issue was out of town try outs combined with the power of the Internet and social media to misinform the process.

ARTc3 formerly ARTc. Actually been a poster since 2004. My name isn't Art. Drop the "3" and say the signature and you'll understand.
Updated On: 3/25/14 at 02:01 PM
FishermanBob
Broadway Legend
joined:7/9/12
You are so wrong toronto
Posted: 3/25/14 at 02:32pm
^ Los Angeles and Chicago think your post is hilarious.

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