Audra McDonald nominated for Black Reel Award for SOUND OF MUSIC LIVE

jacobsnchz14
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Outstanding Supporting Actress, TV Movie or Mini-Series
NOMINEES

Teachers: Loretta Devine
The Sound of Music Live!: Audra McDonald
Pastor Brown: Nicole Ari Parker
The Watsons Go to Birmingham: LaTanya Richardson
Call Me Crazy: A Five Film: Octavia Spencer

CONGRATS TO HER!
MCfan2
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joined:4/29/06
Go Audra! Well deserved!
tazber
Broadway Legend
joined:5/10/05
Hoping she gets an Emmy nomination too.
....but the world goes 'round
StageStruckLad
Featured Actor
joined:3/13/13
I can't get enough of her performance of "Climb Ev'ry Mountain," a song I never really cared for until I saw her perform it.
Dave19
Broadway Star
joined:12/23/11
Are you kidding me?!

Black reel award?

If I were her I wouldn't even accept such nonsense. I would like to be treated like a human being/performer and win an award for my performance as a human being/performer. Can anyone explain to me why people would want to keep this separation intact? Where are the angry letters and reactions of black people now? The separation suddenly is ok when it's positive? Double standards. Because you either do want to keep the separation in tact, or you don't.
latitudex1
Featured Actor
joined:7/9/08
There's nothing to really explain or discuss.

Awards of this nature exist because someone felt there was a need and enough interest to recognize media that may otherwise be overlooked by the mainstream.
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
There should never be a need or interest in maintaining separations based on skin color. Period.

Audra's performance here was wonderful, just as tons of other performances in the entertainment industry, from film to music, the list of black actors/singers that have received mainstream awards is endless.... A lot of them are even considered as the best in their craft in the world. So this whole "overlooked" argument is nonsense.

Equality is not about creating your own separate world to build up self esteem. It is about joining the world. Only then you become a part of the world instead of thinking: "us against them". That is not the message we should teach our children. Why would you want your own separated bench in the bus, while that is exactly what you have been fighting against for so long? There are enough mixed seats for everyone, just like the endless list of mainstream awards for black people. Just jump on the same bus everyone does, join the world and the separation will disappear.

This "double standard" attitude of the black community is not the solution.
Updated On: 1/7/14 at 11:47 AM
degrassifan
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joined:1/23/08
Congrats to her!

Ordinarily, I would agree that there shouldn't be a separation of race, but in an industry where non-Caucasians are hardly recognized for their work or even employed in major roles, I suppose it was up to them to create their own awards, programs, and networks, i.e. BET or Univision, so that such people can be recognized. Sad but true.

Updated On: 1/7/14 at 02:58 PM
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
The saddest part of that is the message they are sending to their own children, that they are clearly not good enough to compete with the mainstream world.

A wrong message in my opinion, because as a white male, growing up my biggest influcences were people like Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson and Oprah Winfrey, just to name a few. And the list goes on and on. Look at the tons of black singers leading the charts, playing lead roles in films and musicals today. If titles or awards are that important I would like to add that most people still call Whitney "the Voice", Michael "The King of pop", and Oprah the "Greatest talkshowhost".

My advice to young black people is; "don't listen to your parents, you are just as good as anyone in the mainstream world. Stay away from the "us against them mentality" and join the mainstream world instead of creating your own separate world".







Updated On: 1/7/14 at 03:25 PM
givesmevoice
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joined:12/2/07
Audra's performance here was wonderful, just as tons of other performances in the entertainment industry, from film to music, the list of black actors/singers that have received mainstream awards is endless.... A lot of them are even considered as the best in their craft in the world. So this whole "overlooked" argument is nonsense.

Okay, so let's look at the winners for the Primetime Emmy for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or a Movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Supporting_Actress_in_a_Miniseries_or_a_Movie#2010s

A woman of color (Shohreh Aghdashloo) won in 2009 for House of Saddam, but the last African American woman to win was Cicely Tyson in 1994. And the number of women of color who have been nominated is incredibly low. Like other posters said, an award like this was created because Black performers are not being recognized for their work by the mainstream media. The problem is not that there is a Black Reel Award, the problem is that there is a NEED for a separate system of awards.
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CarlosAlberto
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Dave how old are you anyway? I ask because it seems odd you would have a problem with this, even if you are white. If you're barely in your twenties then I could understand you being oblivious to history but if you're older than say, thirty I would think you would know why awards like Black Reel were created.

Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
African Americans are roughly 10% of the general population. Then there are many more minority groups such as Asian Americans, Indian Americans, etc. It's only logical that this translates to the amount of people in the business, awards, etc. We could basically say that it is interesting that there are so many black people in the entertainment industry, winning all kinds of mainstream awards, the list is endless. It's all about talent, nobody in the world cared about skin color whatsoever when Beyonce, Rihanna, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Prince, Oprah Winfrey, Halle Berry, Quincy Jones, Aretha Franklin, Dionne Warwick, Tina Turner, Stevie Wonder, Natalie Cole, Lionel Richie, Wynton Marsalis, Etta james, Jay-z, Usher, Kanye West, Jamie Foxx, John Legend, Denzel Washington, Sidney Poitier, Forest Whitaker,Morgan Freeman, Diahann Carroll, Jennifer Holliday, Audra McDonald, Patina Miller, Whoopi Goldberg, etc, etc, etc, collected all of their multiple mainstream awards!

There is no need for separate awards whatsoever. The world does not compare talent by skin color.

And age doesn't have anything to do with understanding that keeping this separation intact is wrong.



Updated On: 1/7/14 at 07:57 PM
Liza's Headband
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It's about market, not skin color. Just as there are movies (Tyler Perry) and cable programming (BET) targeted for the African-American audience, there are also award shows. It's not really a big deal. It is simply recognizing outstanding performances in a minority represented market. Get over it.
"I'm fine, and my hips are fine. My false knee is fine. My false hips are fine. Everything's cooking." -Liza
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
Outstanding performances are recognized no matter what.

The world makes no difference in skin color, black people do. And I wonder for how long they will continue to be doing that.









Updated On: 1/7/14 at 08:30 PM
Phyllis Rogers Stone
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joined:9/16/07
If you are really serious about this and not just doing it because you enjoy taking imbecilic stances, then contact her via Twitter or Facebook and demand she reject the nomination or shut up about it. Actually shut up about it either way.
CarlosAlberto
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FindingNamo
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joined:7/22/03
"Equality is not about creating your own separate world to build up self esteem. It is about joining the world."

Am I reading you right? Are you saying the problem isn't that people are oppressed, but that people who are oppressed stick together and find comfort and strength in numbers? That the only thing that has held them down and kept them back is that *they* haven't "joined the world"?

I mean, Audra has enough Tonys to juggle so I don't think you have to worry your empty little had if a black organization wants to give her an award for the excellent job she did in a role where her skin color DID in fact come up with many viewers who are not as enlightened (pun intended) as yourself Dave.

"Colbert is toast after this latest flap." -- Mr Roxy "Read 'Atlas Shrugged'." -- Gothampc
Updated On: 1/7/14 at 09:07 PM
sephyr
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joined:11/21/10
The world makes no difference in skin color? Uh...yes they do and there have been numerous instances in the national news that shows this to be true. These awards wouldn't be created if there wasn't a feeling of a need for them. It's not saying that black people can't make it in the mainstream, it's just showing appreciation to the performances by African Americans that might have been ignored in the mainstream where they are seldom shown true appreciation (this is getting better but there's still so far to go). I mean there is a Latin VMAs so why can't there be a Black Reel Awards? Anyway, good job Audra, you deserve this and all the awards you receive!
CarlosAlberto
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Audra McDonald juggling her Tonys. Now THAT I'd pay good money to see!
Dave19
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Beyonce, Rihanna, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Prince, Oprah Winfrey, Halle Berry, Quincy Jones, Aretha Franklin, Dionne Warwick, Tina Turner, Stevie Wonder, Natalie Cole, Lionel Richie, Wynton Marsalis, Etta james, Jay-z, Usher, Kanye West, Jamie Foxx, John Legend, Denzel Washington, Sidney Poitier, Forest Whitaker,Morgan Freeman, Diahann Carroll, Jennifer Holliday, Audra McDonald, Patina Miller, Whoopi Goldberg, etc, etc, etc, are all juggling their multiple mainstream awards.
CarlosAlberto
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How dare you leave off Diana Ross from your list! She has the most out of all of them combined...AND she can juggle them with ONE HAND!*




*Note: the following message is dripping with sarcasm. But you already knew that, right?

Updated On: 1/8/14 at 07:40 AM
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
Haha well, I'm glad you understand that she has no reason to feel deprived from recognition.
FindingNamo
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joined:7/22/03
Every person you listed Dave has also received accolades from black media and organizations.
"Colbert is toast after this latest flap." -- Mr Roxy "Read 'Atlas Shrugged'." -- Gothampc
tazber
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joined:5/10/05
I guess we should also be against the GLADD media awards too.
And the BET awards


Oh screw it! Let's just get rid of the Oscars, Emmys, and Tonys. We should just have one award to recognize achievement across all media.

Those annoying local awards? Scrap 'em! If someone in Nowheresville, Noplace gives a great performance then they will rise to the top.


White privilege strikes again.

....but the world goes 'round
Updated On: 1/8/14 at 09:36 AM
FindingNamo
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joined:7/22/03
Actually I AM totally against GLAAD.

But Dave does need to know there was no need for him to let us know he's a white dude. It was clear already.
"Colbert is toast after this latest flap." -- Mr Roxy "Read 'Atlas Shrugged'." -- Gothampc
Dave19
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joined:12/23/11
Yes, and I'm also gay by the way. Not that that is something to be awarded for......

But apparently to some people it is. Poor straight actors, especially in the musical theatre world. Gays are dominating that world, just like black people are almost dominating the music indusry in the mainstream awards. Or at least the 1 in 10 population rate (10% of Americans is black), is much bigger in that industry.

"Every person you listed Dave has also received accolades from black media and organizations." Ehm yes, so what's your point? That it's necessary?

"Oh screw it! Let's just get rid of the Oscars, Emmys, and Tonys. We should just have one award to recognize achievement across all media."
Why? It's great to give people awards based on their outstanding performances in different areas of the business. Acting in a film can not be compared to singing a hitsong. Are you telling me that a black person can not be compared to a white person? Ouch. Let's organize the red head awards next! Because clearly they are not normal people.




Updated On: 1/8/14 at 11:58 AM

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