Could Margaret White in 'Carrie: The Musical' be played by a man in drag?

budfrump
Understudy
joined:5/9/11
Keys and vocal stuff aside, could this work as a man in drag?
Imagine...
LizzieCurry
Broadway Legend
joined:3/7/05
I'd really rather not.
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gleek4114
Broadway Star
joined:5/24/13
I'm pretty sure it's been done before. But it's not really my cup of tea because in my opinion it takes away from the message.
somethingwicked
Broadway Legend
joined:5/27/05
What would it add?
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ray-andallthatjazz86
Broadway Legend
joined:8/2/05
Well, somethingwicked, the original show is apparently not campy ENOUGH, so why the hell not add a drag queen Margaret into it, right?
But seriously, I don't understand why that'd be an addition to CARRIE. It has enough issues as it is (and I'm coming at it from the point of someone who appreciates gender-blind casting).
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bwayphreak234
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Why
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LittleEdieFan
Understudy
joined:12/21/13
Even more camp? But "And Eve was Weak" and "I remember how the boys would dance" are great songs for a drag queen to lip synch to.
Hex3
Stand-by
joined:11/7/08
Well, here's the thing. If we're talking drag, then I say it doesn't need the camp. It's got enough and adding drag would be overkill. However. If we're talking about cross-gender casting with a man that can act the hell out of it and sing it in the right keys, then I say sure.
Caring Soul
Understudy
joined:10/4/12
If only Divine had lived.
dramamama611
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joined:12/4/07
To this question I always ask: why is it ever necessary? What did it add to Hairspray? Or Matilda? I'm not uncomfortable with the drag aspect, but as a woman, I always wonder why are some great female roles taken away from, well, WOMEN? There are already far more men's roles in all medium of acting, and fewer men attempting to get them -- why make it worse?

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best12bars
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joined:6/29/05
^ Why don't you ask all the women who have played Peter Pan and Hansel and Edwin Drood?
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newintown
Broadway Legend
joined:3/3/10
I think not, because it might make the show a little less dull (albeit in a strange way), and this show was written to be unremittingly dull and banal.
Kad
Broadway Legend
joined:11/5/05
They removed the camp elements and they got a show that's just boring, safe, and generic, so why not?
PalJoey
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joined:3/11/04
Nah.
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Jane2
Broadway Legend
joined:2/13/04
BAD idea. Totally takes away from the message. I mean, this is fiction already, but it's frightening. Why make a comedy out of it also?
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dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
Pan...hard to find an adult male that could physically pull of looking like a young boy.
Drood...based on English Music Hall tradition of male impersonators

Hansel? I'm assuming this in opera form? I wouldn't begin to know.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
PalJoey
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You would hate opera, dramamama. It's full of women playing men's roles.




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Updated On: 12/28/13 at 09:31 AM
dramamama611
Broadway Legend
joined:12/4/07
I never said I didn't want to see it, I just asked why it was necessary. I know nothing about opera, so thanks for the information.

However, the question as to WHY it is ever needed (no matter which way the drag plays) is not addressed. I'm not bashing it, just posing a question.
If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
MKunkel
Understudy
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PalJoey
Broadway Legend
joined:3/11/04
In Humperdinck's opera, Hansel and Gretel are both played by women--and the witch is played by a man:



In Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier, the title role of the Rose Cavalier is played by a woman. The opening scene has him (played by her) lolling around in bed with his older female lover. The result often has boundary-breaking exquisite lesbian erotic subtext:



The "taking roles away from women/taking roles away from men" argument usually misses the point.
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joey




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newintown
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Once you start trying to justify the "necessity" of anything in art, it dies.
SidebySidebyLogan
Stand-by
joined:9/25/13
My opinion on cross gender, color blind, etc. casting has always been let a performer come in and blow me away. If you forget about what you are looking for and just look at who is in front of you, the right person will walk into the room. That person may change your whole vision of the show you're casting with 16 bars of a song.
There are fishy enough drag queens out there to play Margaret in The Light in the Piazza.
Hex3
Stand-by
joined:11/7/08
As to the person asking "Why?"

Sometimes the better actor and best choice for the roll ends up being a guy. Not all performances by men in women's rolls come off as funny and campy. There are great actors out there. And the same goes for women in pants rolls.
The Distinctive Baritone
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There's no such thing as "the best person for the role." It's just what the director or producer wants for whatever reason.
Mr Roxy
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joined:5/17/03
Something tells me MLK being played by a white man or Abe Lincoln being played by a black would not cut it. Color blind casting is good to a point. Portraying a fictional character it works. For a real personality I do not think it does. Just an opinion however.
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SidebySidebyLogan
Stand-by
joined:9/25/13
I've heard arguments made for an all black Gypsy and even though it's a show based on historical figures I think I'd be open to an African American Rose, Louise, etc.

I see both sides of the argument but I'm the type of audience member who will more than likely ignore historical inaccuracy for a performance that blows me away. That's just me.

*edit* And just because I'm thinking about it now I need Tonya Pinkins as Rose!
Updated On: 12/29/13 at 10:12 PM

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