The Other Phantoms

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PTOPhan
#1The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 2:06pm

For those of us who can't get enough of the man in the mask, ALW's musical version is certainly the most famous, but there are at least two others that I can think of. The Ken Hill version ran in London and apparently influenced ALW to make drastic changes to his original one-act concept musical. As ALW put it in an interview, the audience at the concept production laughed their heads off, but there was no need for another funny Phantom show, because Ken Hill had already done it so well.

The second musical that I'm thinking of, by Kopit and Yeston, is running this weekend in Pittsburgh.

Is anyone familiar with these two versions of POTO? Is there any chance of their getting to Broadway, or at least Off-Broadway? If you've seen either of them, what did you think? Was it just bad luck that they've forever lived in the shadow of ALW's crashing chandelier, or is there a good reason for their comparative obscurity?


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LizzieCurry
#2The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 7:29pm

I saw a community theatre production of the Yeston/Kopit Phantom many years ago. Tonally, it felt very light and bright in contrast to the story. And the score sounded super-American. Again, in contrast to the story. But I haven't listened to it much since, and when I saw it, I was deep in my ALW Phantom phase, so that probably influenced me quite a bit. :)


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darquegk
#2The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 7:41pm

Paul Williams wrote the film "Phantom of the Paradise" in the early 1970s, a fusion of "The Phantom Of The Opera," "Faust," "The Picture of Dorian Grey" and other classic works of Gothic horror into one modern tale, set against the backdrop of the 1970s rock scene.

It's a camp classic which predates and eerily predicts numerous elements of the yet-to-appear Rocky Horror. For decades a stage production has been rumored to be in development, but it hasn't happened yet.

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#3The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 8:02pm

The Yeston/Kopit Phantom's score has much more of a touch of operetta to it, as opposed to the faux-grand opera score that Webber wrote. I also don't really care for the numerous changes to the original story that they included in their script as well.

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#4The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 10:40pm

I am not a fan of the Yeston/kopit Phantom. The score doesn't work for me, and the book is clunky.
I was very young when the Ken Hill production was touring the states. I think it was before the Webber version went on tour. From what I remember, it followed the novel fairly well. It used actual opera music for the score. I have a cast recording for the Hill production somewhere.

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zepka102
#5The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/27/13 at 11:20pm

I saw a HS production of the Kopit/Yeston production. It has a few really good tunes, but the lyrics didn't do much. For example, Christine sings a song called "Home" that is quite gorgeous, but the lyrics are pretty bad: "Where every English horn/makes me feel glad I'm born"... yeaaaa no.


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#6The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:06am

Neil Berg did a concert recently where he combined numbers from all three major versions -- Webber, Kopit/Yeston, and Hill. Have to wonder how that went.

ETA: Apparently he also threw in numbers from Phantom of the Paradise and Phantom of the Country Palace, among others. Yikes.


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ErinDillyFan
#7The Other Phantoms
Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:22am

Just saw this last weekend in Pittsburgh.

Great cast! Beautiful voices. Not sure I would like the songs as much without the great voices. The range for the phantom I think is a little high for your normal baritone.

It is not the spectacle that ALW POTO is.

I had some problems with corny lyrics and I am not satisfied with change in the end. In some ways, it is more realistic, but I just didn't buy into the character's motivations...