Spider-Man

Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Spider-Man "1.0" Material
Posted: 1/17/13 at 01:33am
Hey guys,

This is a strange request, but if anyone has any pictures (etc.) of Arachne's abandoned costumes, unused set pieces, DEEPLY FURIOUS/THINK AGAIN, etc. from Spider-Man "1.0", it would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you can point me toward any of this. Thanks!
Jordan Catalano
Broadway Legend
joined:10/9/05
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 01:37am
I believe those photos are currently being referred to as "Exhibit A".
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Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 01:41am
Indeed. And taken off the whole internet, apparently, as exclusive evidence!
trentsketch
Broadway Legend
joined:6/25/09
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 08:08am
There was a video floating around on a Tumblr for a long time of Think Again with the rotating spider leg costume. Never seen video of Deeply Furious (not that I looked too hard). Can't think of any photos of the abandoned costumes or sets, either, as they realized real quick Spider-man, not made up supervillain who steals shoes for love, was the draw of the show.
suestorm
Broadway Legend
joined:1/15/13
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 09:32am
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ucjrdude902
Broadway Legend
joined:3/11/07
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 09:59am
My question is for anyone that saw the "before and after". Were there any drastic changes to the set? Or did they just make it work?
LizzieCurry
Broadway Legend
joined:3/7/05
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 10:03am
I saw it shortly before it went on that 3-week hiatus and then I saw the last preview. I don't remember any drastic changes to the set.
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suestorm
Broadway Legend
joined:1/15/13
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 10:04am
i saw both, they took out most of the Arachnes scenes, and the greek chorus.
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ARTc
Stand-by
joined:11/4/11
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 02:25pm
I saw both versions several times. There were some changes to the set:

1. There is an additional "stage" to the suburban neighborhood "pop-up / cut-out" set. With all of the panels open the center folds out to became the car accident that kills Peter's uncle. This final version of this set is no longer shown, but you can clearly see the "seams" where it had folded out.

2. There was a drop that was used for the "Geek Chorus" that is no longer in the show.

3. There was a treadmill that was being used during Peter's big solo. (Not seen, but created a really interesting effect for the actor's performance during that song.)

4. There are several changes to the graphics used on the moving screens, especially in what was the second act.

I am one of the few people who really enjoyed Spider-man v01. I saw it several times before it closed for revisions and then again after it reopened. In my opinion, the show right before the changes was infinitely more interesting. I was extremely saddened and disappointed by the new version. I think the current show is far inferior in almost all ways except the funeral (which has a new set piece - coffin) in the first act. In my opinion, Spiderman v1 was the far better show.





Updated On: 1/17/13 at 02:25 PM
suestorm
Broadway Legend
joined:1/15/13
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 02:35pm
I agree with you ART i liked it the first time better. i loved the first MJ better too.
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Markecib
Understudy
joined:4/13/11
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 02:50pm
I miss the original staging to "Boy Falls from teh Sky." I don't know hoe Reeve made it thru that song every night, but it was impressive.
kyl3fong2
Broadway Star
joined:3/10/11
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 02:54pm
What was the original staging for "Boy Falls From the Sky"?
ARTc
Stand-by
joined:11/4/11
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 02:59pm
Peter is downstage center (as he is now), but on a treadmill that progressively gets faster and faster. His arc through the song matches the intensity of the speed of the treadmill. It was impressive and very powerful.

There are many changes to the "re-imagined" version that I believe to be less interesting. The comment about whether or not they made the set work, is an interesting one. In some ways, yes, as they didn't redesign most of the physical production, but no as the whole Arachne character no longer "works".

The whole Broadway Spider-man story is a sad one. Julie Taymor had a brilliant vision, but not the organizational skills to get that vision to stage before they decided to bring in live audiences. The show needed to be workshopped and there wasn't the possibility of that because of its technical challenges. Having typed that, Julie Taymor's vision was far more interesting and exciting and had it been a more perfect world, the show she would have ultimately given us, would have been - was - far more spectacular, thoughtful and entertaining.



Updated On: 1/17/13 at 02:59 PM
LegallyBroadway2
Broadway Star
joined:8/19/10
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 04:45pm
Media and scenic elements cut from the show include



1) Sinister Six causing havoc across the globe, versus just new york http://media.prologuefilms.com/movies/smm_sinstereo.ogv





2) Think Again- http://media.prologuefilms.com/movies/SM_ThinkAgain.ogv



3) Later versions of Deeply Furious had a wedding chapel. The sequence existed before as a separate nightmare scene. A spider web drop was also cut, which was primarily used in this song, along with Rise Above.

3) Love Me or Kill Me was originally designed to deploy a "web" over the house, but was cut when due to flaws in the design. This version is before the later use of a web which instead stretched the stage portal. http://media.prologuefilms.com/movies/SM_LoveMeKillMe_v03_np_090211.ogv

4) Boy Falls From the Sky- The treadmill was cut from the song due to the telescoping Chrysler building piece which lifts from the trap immediately after the song. The time spent removing the treadmill from the lift, and rolling the Chrysler piece on, and tethering it to the wire would prove too lengthy. This video, although horribly synced, illustrates the incredible final moment, Peter running through new york. It was an incredible stage picture. Afterward, the Goblin entices Peter to vanquish the remaining villains. The treadmill, still used in No More, can spin as well. http://media.prologuefilms.com/movies/SM_BoyFalls_bug_new.ogv

5) The three lifts on the stage apron are equipped with LED strips on the edges, used in Spider-Man! at the top of Act 2, when the lifts are above deck height. The song also incorporates the LED legs, they flash strips of yellow as Swarm enters, and slide into various positions onto the stage, fading into flashing Spider-Man colors. This is the first time the panels are used in a bold form, unlike Bullying by Numbers when they simply border with pulsing color, matching the cyc. During the fashion show, a drop similar to the POW! BANG! Bullying by Numbers piece was used, comic cutouts of the villains back-lit, exactly like the ones projected in the panels during Freak Like Me today.



6) Geek's splash page



1.0



2.0


7) The Goblin's hair style changed. The colors of his face changed as well.

8 ) My favorite moment of 1.0 was after If The World Should End. Mary Jane was abducted in a flash of light, and appears far upstage, held by Swiss Miss and another villain. The ramp lifts to a dizzying height. Peter runs up, but alas, he has lost his powers and cannot rescue Mary Jane. He slides to the stage. This can briefly be seen at 47 seconds in this preview video http://www.popscreen.com/v/5WzON/Behind-the-Scenes-at-SpiderMan-Turn-Off-The-Dark





Updated On: 1/17/13 at 04:45 PM
ARTc
Stand-by
joined:11/4/11
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 04:48pm
Excellent and far more detailed post. Thank you.

Can you find a picture of the final "position" of the street cut out piece with the car crash?

Updated On: 1/17/13 at 04:48 PM
LegallyBroadway2
Broadway Star
joined:8/19/10
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 05:03pm
Unfortunate, I don't have that image..
Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 08:09pm
LegallyBroadway, I agree totally that Mary-Jane's kidnap in the 1.0 version was a really incredibly moment; so theatrical. Shame that it had to be changed. Thanks to you and everyone else for the posts.
zepka102
Broadway Legend
joined:5/26/04
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 08:54pm
LB2, thanks for all of that! I saw 1.0 in January before they shut it down. While it was a mess overall, I saw potential in what they had. It really was a visually stunning show, they just couldn't get everything together to make it work. I haven't seen 2.0 to compare, but it was great seeing some of these scenes again as envisioned. The set for "Love Me or Kill Me" caused the performance I saw to stop for about 4 minutes as the web net was tangled as they were setting it in place. Momentum was killed, this being the climax of the show.
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songanddanceman2
Broadway Legend
joined:8/31/06
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 09:35pm
Everything on the clips posted looks far more interesting and darker than what is currently playing
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Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/17/13 at 09:38pm
Yes; it's easy to forget how truly incoherent it was because visually and conceptually, it was SO much more interesting than what made it. That spinning Arachne costume truly was stunning.

And I really miss the original staging of Boy Falls From the Sky.

The show used to be a huge bowl of human crap with a whole bunch of 24-karat diamonds sprinkled into it. Now it is a bowl of cold, homogenous canned tomato soup that has been left out so long that it has that weird soup-skin on the top of it.

If you follow me.

(Exactly how I felt about the Carrie revival, too.)

Updated On: 1/17/13 at 09:38 PM
twinbelters
Broadway Legend
joined:1/6/10
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/18/13 at 12:09am
Is Swiss Miss still in the show? Love that outfit.
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Scarywarhol
Broadway Legend
joined:10/1/04
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/18/13 at 11:38am
She still does. Definitely the best of the Sinister Six, visually; probably got the most of Julie's attention.
Sinfonian4life
Understudy
joined:6/27/08
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/18/13 at 10:16pm
Played by Brandon Rubendall!
rougeduck
Leading Actor
joined:6/5/07
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/18/13 at 10:37pm
Think Again is actually an awesome song. I wish it got to be sung by someone who fit the vocal part.
DEClarke
Broadway Legend
joined:11/22/06
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/20/13 at 12:20pm
LegallyBroadway2, wow what a collection of materials! IMPRESSIVE! Thanks for sharing. I only saw 2.0. I iwsh they would have kept "Think Again." That number is really fascinating!!!
kissynose
Understudy
joined:10/1/08
Spider-Man
Posted: 1/21/13 at 09:15pm
I have seen both versions. I was lucky enough to see the second preview before the original Arachne left. The show was very dark and amazing athough flawed. The original opening with Mary Jane hanging from the bridge with spiderman running towards her was amazing. The new incarnation of the show is a joke. They dumbed it down and gave the green goblin way too much stage time. The orignal plot was more focused on "the Dark" why did they leave Arachne in the show at all?

I was so excited about the reinvention of this show. It had potential. Too bad they took all the artistry out of the show and made it a tourist cirucs.

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