Transfers That Flopped

ucjrdude902
Broadway Legend
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 10:28am
I was talking to a friend the other night about the "Matilda" transfer and somehow we got on the discussion of shows that planned transfers, there was a great deal of hype and then they flopped but we couldn't think of any.

Has there ever been a show from the West End to NYC and vice versa that was expected to be a hit and wasn't?

aasjb4ever
Broadway Legend
joined:3/29/09
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 10:32am
The first show that comes to mind is Enron. Hit in London (still running I think?) and an absolute flop in New York. My friends who did see it here loved it, but it was a sore spot for Americans, and so it goes.
What a colossal piece of crap! It'll probably run for years.
ljay889
Broadway Legend
joined:8/4/04
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 10:44am
The Woman In White
#sadandtransparent
Updated On: 12/29/12 at 10:44 AM
NOB88
Stand-by
joined:10/21/06
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 10:58am
Ghost?
AC126748
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 10:58am
Ghost
Hair
The Drowsy Chaperone
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Kelly2
Broadway Legend
joined:1/5/07
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:04am
Priscilla would be considered a flop here, yes?
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sundayclothes2
Featured Actor
joined:4/10/09
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:16am
Festen
Mattbrain
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joined:11/23/05
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:16am
Sister Act didn't recoup, did it

Definitely Taboo and Tanz der Vampire...oh I'm sorry, Dance of the Vampires.
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ClapYo'Hands
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:47am
Enron closed a while ago in London.
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SondheimFan5
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joined:6/20/10
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:49am
Rebecca.
Brave Sir Robin2
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:45pm
Droswy didn't transfer, nor did it flop...
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nasty_khakis
Broadway Star
joined:3/15/07
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:47pm
Drowsy transferred to the West End (with Elaine Paige) and flopped, big time.
metropolis10111
Leading Actor
joined:7/28/06
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/29/12 at 11:56pm
Taboo
DEClarke
Broadway Legend
joined:11/22/06
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 12:16am
Matilda...

Wait... too soon? I'm just calling it now, the US won't cling to this show.
Brave Sir Robin2
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joined:5/20/07
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 12:19am
Gotcha. Yeah, lots of musicals seemed to have flopped in the West End: Rent, Thoroughly Modern Millie, and The Producers.

And didn't Chess do well in the West End?
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CapnHook
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 12:56am
Didnt CHICAGO and AVE Q not do as well in the UK?
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DEClarke
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joined:11/22/06
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:01am
It's my understanding that Chess failed here and was a hit in the UK originally.
AEA AGMA SM
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Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:03am
"Didnt CHICAGO and AVE Q not do as well in the UK?"

Well, if you count a run of 15 years as not doing well then yes, Chicago did not do as well over in London
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DEClarke
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joined:11/22/06
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:05am
And we cannot forget CARRIE. It flopped here after its transfer.
Gothampc
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joined:5/20/03
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:05am
Whistle Down The Wind - maybe it had to do with Boyzone not getting enough airplay on "No Matter What".


eta: WDTW played a few venues in the States, but never made it to Broadway even though they had a theater and publicity was already around NYC.
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Updated On: 12/30/12 at 01:05 AM
EricMontreal22
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joined:10/31/11
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 01:57am
And of course both productions of Whistle that played in the US (Hal prince's and the later UK tour) were very different from Edwards' production (which I really enjoyed) in London.

Woman in White was hardly a huge hit in the UK (did it run a year?).

Aspects of Love of course did much better in London. Pippin was a huge flop in the 70s in London (Fosse never seemed to have a ton of success in London--when Chicago opened there in the 70s it wasn't even his production--and didn't do well).
bwayphreak234
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joined:7/4/10
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 02:02am
Movin' Out flopped in London.
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perfectlymarvelous
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joined:5/21/07
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 02:39am
Did Blood Brothers ever recoup on Broadway? I know it ran 2 years here but it ran for decades in London...not exactly a horrible flop but not nearly as successful as the West End production.
Brave Sir Robin2
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joined:5/20/07
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 02:51am
Avenue Q ran for five years on the West End :) and I was just going to mention Movin' Out in the UK. Only two months. Ouch.

Fosse only lasted a year in the West End. Ragtime lasted less than. I know it was not a financial hit in the US, but it's a popular show.

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Updated On: 12/30/12 at 02:51 AM
EricMontreal22
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joined:10/31/11
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 03:01am
Ragtime was a closed run though wasn't it, at the Donmar? Or was there an open ended West End run?
EricMontreal22
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joined:10/31/11
Transfers That Flopped
Posted: 12/30/12 at 03:01am
Sweney Todd didn't do well in its initial London production

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