Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
Another brilliant addition to the cast, now if they'd only announce who's playing Ivy and Bill...
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
Edit: I don't think Little Charles is supposed to be attractive. I think I'm going to have a hard time believing he can't get any girl other than his cousin/sister.
I think I'm going to have a hard time believing he can't get any girl other than his cousin/sister
I don't think there's anything in the text that explicitly says Little Charles is only with Ivy because he couldn't get anyone else. I personally think they have a bond that goes beyond incest for them, especially since they're the only ones in their entire family who are not crazy, monstrous or both.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
Little Charles is constantly harangued by his mother, much like Ivy is by her mom. (Who keeps telling her to wear makeup and stop dressing like a lesbian-that is what she calls her.) And both mothers harp on their children being single and losers (the moms see them that way).
I was going to say something similar to Phyllis. I think he is attractive to the point of almost being unattractive. (I think Laura Benanti is the same way, honestly.)
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
I don't think he's attractive, but I don't doubt other people do, but he doesn't look like anyone I would think is considered more or less universally attractive.
I know what you mean about attractive to the point of being unattractive - I tend to feel that way about most of the models I see in ads in stuff like Vanity Fair. Like I think most of them are just out and out fugly. But then I just remember I tend to have wildly different tastes than most people.
But even so, I don't think Benedict Cumberbatch ever needs to worry about being "too attractive" for something.
I don't think hes terribly attractive, to be honest. And unless you are GORGEOUS I don't see its much of an issue. Little Charles is a loser as a result of his mother's disappointment in his potential and his father's enabling. There are scads of decent looking people that have no self confidence. He feels important and manly with Ivy.
Why should ANY fangirls stay away. If they fl a great job with this film, idw like it to be a financial success.
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These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
The movie starts filming on September 24th. Jessica Chastain is currently in rehearsal for THE HEIRESS, which she's doing on Broadway through January. Besides, as far as the ages of the characters go, she would have had to play Karen, not Ivy.
That being said, though she's the same age as Chastain, I'd love to see Maggie Gyllenhaal as Ivy.
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
I wonder if Emily Mortimer can manage to be as vulnerable as Ivy needs to be, it'd definitely be an intriguing choice and it makes me curious to imagine her in the part. I was a big fan of the Mary-Louise Parker idea but more and more Marisa Tomei is my top choice. They need to announce the rest of the cast already!
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
Little range? questionable vulnerability? WHAT? HUH? ARE EITHER OF YOU SERIOUS?
Compare Mortimer in LARS AND THE REAL GIRL (extremely vulnerable) to THE NEWS ROOM (a totally different woman in irony, leadership, initiative, anxiety, neurosis, social position, resoluteness, degree of commitment to congeniality, family status, national origin, regional flavor, down home sensibility versus palpable urbanity, self-regard, career, traditional versus contemporary image of femininity, dialect, humor, and physicality - and still highly vulnerable).
And brilliant and completely convincing in both!
Now back to Osage. She's perfect for Ivy in every sense, utterly right as an extremely attractive woman who, when she tunes down her looks, can verge on plainness and strike her mother as needing makeup. Exactly the right age both as written and in relation to Roberts and Lewis. A perfect fit for Cumberbatch; and, for my money, ideally believable as a sister to both Roberts and Lewis.
Did I miss anything? Come on Mortimer fans, help me out!
Emily Mortimer is phenomenal, but she's unavailable. The movie is filming through the end of the year and she goes back to shooting the second season of THE NEWSROOM (which she's radiant on) later this month.
Tonya Pinkins: Then we had a "Lot's Wife" last June that was my personal favorite. I'm still trying to get them to let me sing it at some performance where we get to sing an excerpt that's gone.
Tony Kushner: You can sing it at my funeral.
I had heard Amy Adams might have been cast as Ivy and I thought that fit since when people were talking about an Into the Woods transfer they said she couldn't because she was filming Sept.-Dec. of this year, which is the time of the filming for this.
I have nothing against Mortimer, in fact, I really like her in the few things I've seen her in. I cannot stand Aaron Sorkin so I haven't checked out THE NEWSROOM, so my question regarding her vulnerability was a genuine inquiry rather than an attack on her talent.
Adams would be sublime as Ivy and completely unexpected but I'd rather not get my hopes up, if anyone's busier than Jessica Chastain, it's probably Adams.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"