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Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theater exteriors?

Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theater exteriors?

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#1Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theater exteriors?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 2:43pm

Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theater exteriors?


I'm going to get a tiny bit ranty, but it's criminal that these gorgeous theaters aren't being taken care of. The Broadhurst isn't even the same color anymore. Sure, the theater is fairly old and sustained tons of wear and tear over the years, but it's nothing that maintenance work couldn't fix.

Look at the photo above - you can still see the original light-stone color of the theater beneath the dirt. It would be SUCH a stunner if they just cleaned it up a bit! Yes, it's a recession and everything costs money, but really, hiring a team to powerwash the exterior is *not* that expensive. Especially with all of the protective coatings we have nowadays that can be applied to shield buildings/stone/etc from the natural elements, it just seems silly that more care wouldn't be given to protecting these gems.

The Broadhurst is in the worst shape by far, but theaters like the Longacre and Shubert could benefit enormously from some power washing, too.




Updated On: 8/12/12 at 02:43 PM

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#2Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 3:02pm

Makes you wonder what exactly they're "restoring" with that mandatory $1.25 fee they collect on all tickets sold, doesn't it?

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#2Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 3:09pm

You don't think some of that money went to the recent restorations/renovations of the Booth, Belasco and Longacre, the exterior power-washing of the Music Box and Jacobs and the current renovations of the Golden?

They seem to be working their way pretty steadily through their theaters.

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#3Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 3:13pm

TheatreGuy, you're right, I should've made note of those - but still, it seems like they're willing to shell out serious bank to fix up the interiors (new seats, etc), which is great, but they do very little work on the exteriors.




Updated On: 8/12/12 at 03:13 PM

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#4Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 3:14pm

The Broadhurst is a total mess both on the outside and the inside with seats so cramped, they wouldn't even be comfortable for an audience of dwarfs.

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#5Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 3:25pm

^ I agree. A terribly uncomfortable theater.

Jon
#6Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 4:06pm

The "restoration fees" are simply a way for the theatre owners to get some extra income. That amount is NOT included in the weekly grosses, and therefore the creative team doesn't get a percentage of it.

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#7Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 4:09pm

I don't think anyone ever thought the fees were included in the grosses.

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#8Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 5:09pm

As a 6 foot 5 theatergoer, I hate the Broadhurst seating.

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#9Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 5:12pm

Why would the creative team receive any of the money from restoration fees? They aren't responsible for the physical building (unless their production damages it).


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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LiveLoud22
#10Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 5:35pm

Yeah, who said something about the creatives getting a cut of the restoration money? Jon mentioned it, but like Jordan, I don't know who the hell ever actually thought that.

Jon
#11Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:23pm

I was just pointing out that when you pay your $125 or whatever for a ticket, part of that money is not going to the producers of the show.

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hermajesty
#12Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:28pm

you don't go and watch the productions anyway, so what's the point? If you supported them more, maybe they could afford to renovate them. If you don't use 'em, you lose 'em....simples.




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Updated On: 8/12/12 at 07:28 PM

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#13Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:40pm

I thought you weren't going to post here anymore, HerVagesty.

Phyllis Rogers Stone
#14Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:41pm

I'd pay $1.25 to make that happen.

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#15Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:46pm

I'd pay a sixpence and a guinea to make that happen.

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hermajesty
#16Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:51pm

Shut it


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#18Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 7:54pm

I think its more important to renovate the interiors rather than the exteriors. Exteriors get covered with advertisements and graffitti anyway. I'd much rather sit in a comfortable seat with leg room. Has anyone seen JERSEY BOYS since the Jujamcyns installed their new seating? I read from maybe Riedel that the new seating they chose really does make a difference in sustained comfort for the 2.5 hours that you're sitting down.


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--Aristotle

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#19Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 8/12/12 at 8:11pm

Shut what? You're the one who said "I shall nevuh return to these 'ere boards what cause yawls is mean an' nasty"

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#20Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 2/27/15 at 1:50pm

I'd like to bump this.

Some of the brickwork on these buildings is exquisite. The grime that has built up on them just makes them look sad and dying.

Luckily, the interiors of most HAVE been restored beautifully. I know when we buy a ticket we are spending time in the inside of the building, but more often than not, I find myself walking through the district saddened by the state of the theatres.

Ambassador:


Broadhurst:


Cort: no brickwork, but the building is peeling


Jacobs: what is with those windows?


Imperial: 46th view



Just to show a few. What does a power wash cost?


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Mr Roxy
#21Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 2/27/15 at 2:03pm

Generally todays theatergoers could not give a **** about theater exteriors

They come (for the most part)to see the show and leave. Many do not even care about the interiors either.


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#22Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 2/27/15 at 2:11pm

The 46th st view of the Imperial is even worse now - parts of the theatre's name on the awning have fallen off. It's basically indecipherable now if you didn't know the name already.


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bandit964
#23Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 2/27/15 at 2:13pm

Generally, they couldn't. But I know a lot of people who do care. They're such gorgeously designed buildings and it could make for a much more beautiful stroll through the theatre district.

Maybe the general theatregoers never notice it, but I think to myself everytime I walk through, "boy would it look nice if they cleaned up the outside of some of these theatres."



Updated On: 2/27/15 at 02:13 PM

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#24Why don't the Shubert's take care of their theaters?
Posted: 2/27/15 at 8:31pm

#restorebroadwaysexterior2k15 LETS GET THIS TRENDING PEEPS!!


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