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Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.

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Huss417
#1Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 9:45am

I heard this on the radio this morning.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Batman-Rampage-NYPD-Subpoena-Twitter-James-Holmes-Colorado-Massacre-165250636.html


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dramamama611
#2Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:27am

Someone here asked a day or two ago, whey there were Police in riot gear (not sure if those were the poster's words) around the Longacre.

This is truly unsettling. At least the Police are taking it seriously. (I cannot believe Twitter didn't simply comply.)


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g.d.e.l.g.i.
#2Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:29am

Well, if it's not an ill-thought-out publicity stunt (which I would not put past Mike Tyson at all), it's surely a sign of how poisonous things are in this country right now.


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ghostlight2
#3Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:37am

Drinks on me for the entire board if it isn't some stupid kid screwing around.

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ClydeBarrow
#4Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:38am

The show was that bad?


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dramamama611
#5Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:41am

A publicity stunt? Really?


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g.d.e.l.g.i.
#6Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:45am

You ask this of Mike Tyson. Mike. Tyson. Pay close attention to the video clip I'm appending here. And he's supposed to be promoting the show in this clip.

TODAY: Mike Tyson, Spike Lee are Broadway bound


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showchoirguy
#7Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:46am

So I know which theatre I'll be staying away from tomorrow.

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dramamama611
#8Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:53am

He hasn't two brain cells to rub together, I'll give you that. But I fail to see how this supports in ANY way, 'publicity stunt'.


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Huss417
#9Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:53am

I really cant believe that Twitter is not handing over the users information. I think the moment someone makes posts like these the authorities should be allowed the information.


"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.

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g.d.e.l.g.i.
#10Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:58am

Doesn't the fact that he hasn't two brain cells to rub together already make it possible that he might think something like this would work as a publicity stunt?


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Anakela
#11Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 10:58am

The NY Magazine story has screencaps of the theatre tweets, along with other threats.
Twitter User Threatening Aurora-Style Theater Massacre in New York Also Threatened to Kill Just About Everyone

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dramamama611
#12Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:00am

They got the subpoena on Monday. You'd think they were already at this guy's door. And maybe they have been.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

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millie_dillmount
#13Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:01am

I don't understand why Twitter didn't just cooperate, especially following the aftermath of the Aurora, CO tragedy.


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dramamama611
#14Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:15am

While we do invoke emergency-disclosure procedures when it appears that a threat is present, specific and immediate, this does not appear to fall under those strict parameters as per our policies.

I suppose since he doesnt' when it's happening, it doesn't fit into their "policy"

But based on his (her?) other tweets, makes ghostlight's prediction more plausible. However, that is a person that needs some serious intervention.


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

ghostlight2
#15Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:22am

Oh, I think that is a person who needs jail time.

"I don't understand why Twitter didn't just cooperate, especially following the aftermath of the Aurora, CO tragedy."

Due process is why. It's a slippery slope we're on when we allow authorities to just take private information. Where do you draw the line?

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My Oh My
#16Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:26am

I'm all for screwing around the internet but that's not screwing around, that just being a mindless twit. I sincerely hope they make an example of of this person and impose a penalty that hurts and will make others reconsider pulling off similar stunts.

The last thing theatre needs is some nutjob inspiring fear to the point everyone stays away.


Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.

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millie_dillmount
#17Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:35am

"Due process is why. It's a slippery slope we're on when we allow authorities to just take private information. Where do you draw the line?"

True, but it is unfortunate at the same time considering recent events. Even if it is just some bored kid in his basement, these things need to be taken seriously. Whoever posted those updates needs help.

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EDIT: I would like to rephrase what I said about Twitter not releasing the information, as I misinterpreted part of the article. I understand our rights to due process, and I agree it is a slippery slope. After reading some of the tweets in question, I believe some of the statements he (or she?) made should not be taken lightly, even if we weren't in the wake of the tragic events in CO. I don't think our due process rights should be taken away, however I think some situations need to be evaluated more carefully, especially one where someone is making explicit threats. According to Twitter, what would define something that would fall under "emergency-disclosure procedures"?


"We like to snark around here. Sometimes we actually talk about theater...but we try not to let that get in our way." - dramamama611
Updated On: 8/7/12 at 11:35 AM

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dramamama611
#18Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:40am

I don't think threats are enough reason to jail (both from a legal and a moral standpoint).

I wonder how the people working at the Longacre must be feeling. I cant imagine they haven't been alerted. Does anyone know if the patrons had any knowledge??


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.

ghostlight2
#19Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 11:50am

A quick google would say otherwise, dramamama. Such threats are known as terroristic. Here's NJ law on it:

"a. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to commit any crime of violence with the purpose to terrorize another or to cause evacuation of a building, place of assembly, or facility of public transportation, or otherwise to cause serious public inconvenience, or in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. A violation of this subsection is a crime of the second degree if it occurs during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. The actor shall be strictly liable upon proof that the crime occurred, in fact, during a declared period of national, State or county emergency. It shall not be a defense that the actor did not know that there was a declared period of emergency at the time the crime occurred.

b. A person is guilty of a crime of the third degree if he threatens to kill another with the purpose to put him in imminent fear of death under circumstances reasonably causing the victim to believe the immediacy of the threat and the likelihood that it will be carried out."

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dramamama611
#20Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 12:04pm

I didn't say it wasn't a crime, I just doubted that it was one that came with jail time. (Which is certainly might)

There are an awful lot of people convicted of DOING physical harm that are out and about in the general public.


(Or did I miss where your post covered that?))


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Addison D.
#21Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 12:15pm

The notion that people use the logic that "At times like this" we need to abandon due process and abrogate individual rights is absolutely terrifying to me. It is at "times like this"--whatever that means--that the rule of law is most crucial. We don't just change the rules to suit the emotional whim of a hysterical mob.

Having said that, I question whether an individual making a specific and explicit threat of violence is guaranteed the right of anonymity. Recent legal precedent has concluded that someone sending a Tweet has the same expectation of privacy protection as a person who leans out a window and shouts at passers-by in the street--i.e.: None.


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#22Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 12:21pm

I fail to see any invasion of privacy here. It is Twitter, not a doctor, or psychologist, or even a priest for that matter. There is no doctor/patient confidentiality here, we're not talking medical records or even breaking the seal of confession. It's Twitter. There should be no guarantee of anonymity from a social media website.

ghostlight2
#23Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 12:25pm

Sorry, dramamama, I thought that would be implied. Here are the possible penalties:

"Penalties for First, Second, Third, and Fourth Degree Crimes in NJ
Generally, the penalties imposed for crimes in New Jersey are as follows:
First Degree involves ten (10) to twenty (20) years in prison
Second Degree involves five (5) to ten (10) years in prison
Third Degree involves one (1) to five (5) years in prison
Fourth Degree involves up to eighteen (1Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack. months in prison
Disorderly Persons Offenses involve up to six (6) months in prison"


Again, this is NJ law, but I imagine most states have similar penalties for terroristic threats.

And I'm in total agreement with Addison D.

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dramamama611
#24Twitter User Threatening Broadway Attack.
Posted: 8/7/12 at 12:45pm

Thanks for the details.

I agree with Addision as well.

Just like the shooter in Aurora -- its all very easy to say NOW that someone should have said something,(the docotor, the school, etc) but when you are in it, how do you know?


If we're not having fun, then why are we doing it? These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.