just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
#1just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 12:16am
Wow - I cannot begin to say how much I enjoyed it.
I had never seen the London Production, and while I enjoyed the music on the concept album, I didn't listen to it a lot. The story seemed hard to go along with.
But what a difference a couple years, a new continent, new creative team make... Wow - was tearing up at "Look with your heart"; even though I knew the story, I actually felt the tension with whether Christine would sing or not (the shots of Raoul and the Phantom really made it that much more dramatic).
The music sounded so lush and superb - and the alterations were great (love the scene before "LND" with the Phantom putting the necklace on Christine) even scenes I never cared for -- the beauty underneath -- I found exciting.
I hope this helps bring LND to Broadway... would love to see this live. Just the Coney Island Waltz alone, there was so much to take in, that this beautiful film couldn't possibly have captured it all.
Congrats ALW and the Cast and Crew - it was a brutal process, but it's great to see LND's potential fully realized.
#2just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 12:35amI fully agree. I listened to the cast recording a couple of times and liked it but never really connected with it. Seeing the show tonight, I can't wait to listen to it again. I think it is actually better than PHANTOM OF THE OPERA and I really am excited for my blu-ray to arrive in a couple of months.
#2just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 12:43amYeah Jordan, I was thinking the same thing... I enjoyed Phantom a lot, but the music and everything really seemed to move things along. Perhaps because its new, but I like it better than Phantom.
#3just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 12:45amIm absolutely shocked. I thought I would hate it, but the characters here seem more formed than they did in the original!
#4just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 12:54amI really would love to see this production come to New York. It looks like it would be spectacular in person.
#5just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:01am
The production is physically amazing, I don't think I've ever seen a musical as 'spectacular' and feel that description from the pull-quote outside the theatre is quite honest, if a bit understated because of how overused the word is.
I haven't seen the filmed version but heard it is difficult to gauge a cohesive view of the transitions or the whole set, which is very tall and intricate.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 2/29/12 at 01:01 AM
#6just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:05amIt's a very intimate filming of the show and it's only towards the very end when there's a full stage shot (which these filmed musicals need more of, by the way) that you get a feel for the scope of it. It also seems like the stage is not that big so what they did with the space they had was really incredible.
eatlasagna
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#7just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:34amsaw it today too... was pleasantly surprised at how much i enjoyed it especially after hearing the negative comments and reviews... i too have the London cast album but never connected with it... but after watching it tonight I did... the music sounded so lush and beautiful... it also felt like stronger work from ALW... i thought Raoul was more of a character this time around as was Meg... i like what both characters were going through... can't wait to watch this on blu-ray!
#8just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:36amWait, people like this crap unironically?!
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#9just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:44amI know, I'm as shocked as you. But when something is good, its good. I'm eating my words right now to several of my friends. Its visually spectacular and while the book and score are flawed, they still serve for a great, emotional evening at the (movie) theatre.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 12/1/09
#10just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:58am
It's is a very good PRODUCTION, but my sister and I both walked away feeling that it is still a very flawed SHOW.
The final scene seemed tortuously slow, even though they were virtually hanging above us in the third row.
#11just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:14amI got to agree ,wasn't a big fan of the London cd. But everything just seems to work on the big screen . Not a perfict show but 1000 times better then London.
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#12just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:30am
I know next to nothing of this show but I did like the music the one time I listened to it. I've never been in on the constantly negative commentary around the internet but I also did not mind it as the idea seems hopelessly tacky and cheesy. The title alone seems to have been thrown onto the marquee at the very last minute due to how corny it is.
I used to be a Phantom nut but have since found it to be one of the most unsatisfying nights at the theatre for how pedestrian it is. I always will admire the production itself: Hal's direction, Maria's gorgeously iconic designs, Lynne's evocative choreography, Bridge's moody lighting, and ALW's sumptuously orchestrated score. But the characters, plot I've never really cared much for. The few times I did care it was all momentary push-button emotionalism since nowadays I find it impossible to care for a lunatic serial killer. When you're a kid, you innocently buy into things that tell you how to feel, something I find gratingly annoying now as an adult. I will say I sort of miss that naivete and the joy Phantom brought as a result.
I'd still enjoy it if that were the only problem. I can be laid back and easy going, you know, but I just don't care at all for Christine as a character. The rest of them, much less. So the show is and always will be about stagecraft, the music, its irresistible visual style, and the show's best character of all...that darn chandelier.
So, I guess LND seems to have taken those characters and made them into people we can actually care about, eh? But it still features a serial killer ghost who bemoans his fugliness, no? And what's this about Meg Giry being an evil slut with Mme. Giry being the same sinister creature who is the only one sporting a French accent? The whole thing sounds like a bad dream, and if that is the case, I'd rather be dreaming with the murderous ghost and his chandelier instead!
But happy to see Lordy Webber have another crack at making the show as good as the score that accompanies it.
I wish him much success.
Recreation of original John Cameron orchestration to "On My Own" by yours truly. Click player below to hear.
#13just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:39am
Hooray! So glad people are finally enjoying this show!
"and the alterations were great (love the scene before "LND" with the Phantom putting the necklace on Christine)"
That was there in London :)
#14just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:13amWow. This is NOT at all the reaction I expected from BWW. At least I'm reassured that I wasn't the only one in the theater last night filled with incredulous laughter.
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#15just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 8:47am
I think I'm a bit mixed on the film. I agree, the score is beautiful. There is some clever staging (Coney Island Waltz and the Phantom's confrontation with Raoul). The costumes were incredible in detail.
The story in LND is much tighter than POTO as it only revolves around the Phantom, Christine, Raoul, the Girys and Gustav. And the filming (lots and lots of close-ups) made the story quite emotional. There are few light moments and most of the songs are ballads.
But when did the Phantom cease being a murderer? How does someone sing for so long after being shot in the stomach? How did Raoul become such a drunk? These preposterous turns stretched my suspension of disbelief.
Overall glad I saw it, but would not see it on Broadway without more tweaking by the writers.
#16just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 10:02amI still need one thing answered: who were the coneheaded chil'ren following the man on the giant trike? I hate that song - love this staging - but seriously... why were they referencing a skit from SNL in the 70s?
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#17just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 11:54amYou have to do something with all the extra Gustaves.
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eatlasagna
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#18just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 1:53pm
how is Meg a slut??
Raoul became a drunk because of his gambling... although he wasn't really portrayed as a drunk drunk... more as a drinker...
the ending reminded me of the Matrix Revolutions when everyone in our theater was like... DIE already Trinity!!! haha... and yeah... Christine sure did sing a lot before dying! haha...
and did anyone not like the interview before the show started?? it was just edited really bad and it went on for far too long... after it was over some guy in my theater yelled out something like "thank you, it's about time"... ha
Wildcard
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#19just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:02pmI enjoyed the screening as well and liked it more than I thought I would. Yes, the score was repetitive (it is Lord Lloyd Webber, after all) but what was good was good. However, I was not a fan of the songs the Phantom and Christine sing when they first meet in the hotel room. It didn't have the oomph I was hoping for for their reunion. And oh Meg Giry, what have you become?
#20just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:13pm
and did anyone not like the interview before the show started?? it was just edited really bad and it went on for far too long... after it was over some guy in my theater yelled out something like "thank you, it's about time"... ha
Agreed. Why did they use the same 3 or 4 scenes over and over again during ALW's desperate plea for us to like it?
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#21just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 2:34pm
The interview was edited really clumsily... It took the "extra" that is available on the Blu-Ray and DVD ("Making of") and added an additional interview that they must've done for the theatrical release. Really didn't find it necessary (particularly since as a fan, I had already seen all those...) but for my Mom (and I'm thinking other "casual" fans who don't know all the ins and outs of this show's development) it probably was helpful.
As for the death scene being too long - well considering what it was originally, Christine goes a lot quicker... And I didn't have a problem with it. Thought it was pretty dramatic.
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Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/05
#22just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 4:42pm
It is a beautiful production, the score is nice, the performances are fine, but the story is still terrible.
It irks me to no end that I am expected to believe that a woman would return to her kidnapping, murderous stalker for a night of consensual sex shortly before her wedding to her childhood sweetheart. "He kills without a thought, he murders all that's good," yeah, that's just the person I want to bone before my wedding.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/07
#23just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 4:47pmIt turns out that I had less homework than I thought so I went to see the musical in the movie theatre. There were parts of it that I liked, but there were also things that I did not enjoy. The sets and specil effects are amazing, but I still feel that the music and book are not perfect. It is enjoyable, but it does NOT live up to its predecessor. This morning I wathced parts of the 25th Anniversary concert of 'Phantom of the Opera', and having seen the tour twice, I can clearly see why the first musical appeals to so many people and this sequel does not.
#24just back from LOVE NEVER DIES - Loved it
Posted: 2/29/12 at 4:51pm
I was not a fan of the songs the Phantom and Christine sing when they first meet in the hotel room. It didn't have the oomph I was hoping for for their reunion
I agree! I found this part so boring. And I was watching it from the rear mezz, which I imagine it is a lot worse from than the close-up filming.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 2/29/12 at 04:51 PM
