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Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question

Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question

Musicaldudepeter
#1Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 9:22pm

Can someone please explain why the following line is so funny - it brings down the house every time it is sung - i don't know why!!! :

"Since marine doesn't appeal to you, how about rear admiral?"
"No, no, it's too salty."

Dollypop
#2Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 10:20pm

Admirals are on boats.

Boats are in salt water and salty air.

Admirals=salty.


Geeze!


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minicko88
#3Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 11:25pm

I got that one, but the one I never understand is "Locksmith"?

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#4Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 11:37pm

^That one is more in the delivery -- there's no rhyme and they are forced to abandon that round of the game.


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Glitter and be Gay
#5Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 11:37pm

Sweeney and Mrs. Lovett are trading rhymes back and forth, each one trying to top the other, then she throws out "locksmith" and stumps him. He can't rhyme it and she knows it. She takes a beat then changes tack and the song continues.

minicko88
#6Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/3/10 at 11:51pm

ahhh GOT YA!

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#7Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 2:14am

It took me a full year after I first heard the score to get the Locksmith joke...I was too embarrassed to ask anyone.


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mallardo
#8Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 12:53pm

In British slang a sailor is a "salt". Retired sailors are often referred to as old salts.


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maggiemar142
#9Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 1:22pm

not to be a prick, but it's "royal admiral". she's just using a british accent when she says it.

ghostlight2
#10Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 1:29pm

^ ^ ^ ^

Are you quite sure? It's definitely "royal marine", but I'm pretty sure it's rear admiral".

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maggiemar142
#11Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 1:34pm

i don't have a libretto, but i'm fairly sure it's "royal" both times.
Updated On: 9/4/10 at 01:34 PM

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musikman
#13Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 2:00pm

MRS. LOVETT: Since marine doesn't appeal to you, how about rear admiral?
TODD: Too salty. I prefer general.
MRS. LOVETT: With or without his privates? "With" is extra. (TODD chortles)

you might be confusing it with this? :

MRS. LOVETT:
Well, then, if you're British and loyal,
You might enjoy Royal
Marine.
(TODD makes a face)
Anyway, it's clean.
Though, of course, it tastes of wherever it's been.


-There's the muddle in the middle. There's the puddle where the poodle did the piddle."

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maggiemar142
#14Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 2:17pm

yea, Angela does a very clear "rear" and Patti's sounds more like "royal". and it would be very unlike Sondheim to reuse a word like that. so i guess i was wrong. sorry, ghostlight. sorry, musicaldudepeter.
Updated On: 9/5/10 at 02:17 PM

ghostlight2
#15Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/4/10 at 8:06pm

Edited so as not to be mean - but honestly, when you go to correct someone, you should first be sure you're right. Beyond that, when it's proven that you're wrong in your correction of someone else, graciously concede and admit your error. Don't grudgingly say that they're "probably right" when they definitely are.


Updated On: 9/4/10 at 08:06 PM

AwesomeDanny
#16Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 11:32am

In the "general--with or without his privates," I get that line, but I don't understand the "with is extra" line.

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iflip4musicals
#17Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 11:36am

I always assumed she was saying that she would charge extra if someone wanted the general with his privates.


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AwesomeDanny
#18Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 11:46am

That's what I thought, but the laugh always comes after "with is extra", and I think it should come after "with or without his privates?".

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abitoftap
#19Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 12:19pm

"with or without his privates?"....which is almost a classic carry on... line.

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jasonf
#20Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 1:17pm

I had a prof. at school who said this song was perfect except for one mistake -- in England, politicians "stand" for office not "run" as in "Here's a politician so oily it's served with a doily have one. Put it on a bun, well you never know if it's going to run"


Hi, Shirley Temple Pudding.

A Little Priest
#21Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 2:04pm

This is especially embarrassing considering my username, but I've never quite understood why the trouble with poet is, how do you know it's deceased?
Updated On: 9/5/10 at 02:04 PM

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StageManager2
#22Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 2:45pm

Rhyming for the sake of rhyming. Porter did it all the time (see "You're the Top").


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia

AEA AGMA SM
#23Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 2:49pm

Think along the lines of the modern emo/goth poet, stereotypically shown as depressed, moping, and brooding. Many of the poets of the Romantic period were much the same.

So, is this poet just sitting around depressed and moping, or is he dead?

ghostlight2
#24Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 2:51pm

^ ^ ^ ^

What AEA SM said. It is a great rhyme, though.

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#25Sweeney Todd - A Little Priest Question
Posted: 9/5/10 at 3:07pm

BTW: jasonf, that's like when Henry Higgins sings "By law she should be taken out and hung / for the cold-blooded murder of the English tongue." A grammar nazi like he would know it's "hanged."

Also, in "An Ordinary Man" he keeps saying "... than to ever let a woman in my life." It really should be "... than EVER to let a woman in my life." But I suppose it hurts the music... or rhyme in the case above.

Still, it goes against character.


Salve, Regina, Mater misericordiae
Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
O clemens O pia
Updated On: 9/5/10 at 03:07 PM