Motown to close January 18th, 2015

Jeffrey Karasarides
Featured Actor
joined:11/27/11
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 12:39pm
"I honestly think they're saving New Amsterdam for Hunchback if they can't find any other theater. TLM and Tarzan only lasted a year, so I won't be surprised if this closes next year (which would be too bad, I really loved it)"

Personally, I think Aladdin will be able to last a nice few years and maybe close around the time Frozen will be ready for Broadway...

Plus with Hunchback having two try-out productions within the next year, I think a Broadway run starting in the 2015-16 sounds more likely.

Updated On: 8/22/14 at 12:39 PM
Princeton Returns
Broadway Legend
joined:12/2/10
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 12:42pm
Plus Hunchback is meant to be on the smaller scale so won't need as big a theatre
Nateben2
Understudy
joined:5/26/14
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 12:54pm
Well, I too think Hunchback and the New Amsterdam might be a wrong fit - and Aladdin does has a good three or four years in in, even with the high costs.

But . . . fans of Hunchback ... other Nederlander theaters exist

Lunt/Fontaine might go to Finding Neverland
Brooks would be available after Love Letters
Rodgers would be available if and when If/Then closes.
Palace depending on how long American in Paris runs.
Marquis ????

They may be a lot of Nederlander theaters available





Phantom of London
Broadway Legend
joined:3/26/08
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 01:23pm
Just done some number crunching:

Motown has grossed so far: $91,949,093
Show initial costs: $17,000,000
Money show has made, minus initial costs: $74,949,093
Weeks show has run: 75
Money show has made, minus initial costs divided by weeks run: $999,321

Therefore weekly nut is north of (as show hasn't recouped yet): $999,321

So last weeks grosses was $968,020 so Motown lost money last week.

I can understand why Motown is closing in January as it is going to cash in for the very lucrative Thanksgiving and Christmas week, but possible with lean weeks in between the show may close without recouping. But will be good knowing that the show has nearly payed for the furniture and should when the set is shipped and begins in London.

The shows producers need their heads examined, why they went with a show with an astronomical nut, which is more than $1m a week.
2014 Theatre: Billy Elliot***** Meet Me In St Louis*** American Psycho**** Tell Me On A Sunday**** Jeeves and Wooster: Perfect Nonsense* Stephen Ward**** Charlie and the Chocolate factory*** Dirty Dancing** Stephen Sondheim's Puttin It Together*** Candide*** The Lion King***** The Book of Mormon****** Les Miserable***** Stephen Ward**** The Weir**** Fortune's Fool*** Spamalot*** Superior Doughnuts**** Seven Brides For Seven Brothers**** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Finans Rainbow**** The Commitments** Boeing Boeing*** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) The A-Z of Mrs P** Billy Elliot***** Wicked** Good People***** Urinetown***** Spamalot*** The Full Monty**** Other Desert Cities*** Ghosts*** Dirty Rotten Scoundrels***** It's A Bird, It's A Plane, It's Superman*** Stephen Ward**** King Lear**** A Taste Of Honey** Blithe Spirit**** From Here To Eternity**** Spamalot*** Fiddler On The Roof** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Relative Values**** Fatal Attraction*** Matilda***** 39 Steps**** Another Country** Handbagged** Two Into One*** The Beautiful Game***** Let The Right One In**** Once**** Privacy***** Home** Best of Friends** Avenue Q*** Good People***** Betty Blue Eyes*** (Tour: Salisbury Playhouse) I Can't Sing* A View From The Bridge***** Water Babies **** (Tour: Leicester Curve) Miss Saigon***** In The Heights*** The Testament of Mary*** This May Hurt A Bit*** The Last 5 Years* (Greenwich Theatre) All My Sons*** Happy Days** Dirty Rotten Scoundrels**** Bakersfield Mist**** Ushers** The Pajama Game*** Evita*** (Tour: Orchard Theatre, Dartford)Fings Ain't What They Used To Be**** Billy Elliot***** Titus Andronicus**** 1984*** Clarence Darrow**** Miss Saigon***** A Small Family Business*** Things We Do For Love**** Hobson's Choice*** Rock of Ages*** (Tour: Churchill Theatre, Bromley) Zanna, Don't!*** The Silver Tassie** Bring Up The Bodies** Forbidden Broadway**** Carousel**** Hotel*** The Crucible**** Annie Get Your Gun*** (Churchill Theatre, Bromley) Medea*** The Importance of Being Earnest*** The Pajama Game*** Skylight**** Pacific Overtures** The Invincibles*** Julius Ceasar*** Porgy and Bess**** Dessa Rose** Great Britain**** One Man, Two Guvnors**** (Tour: Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Dogfight** My Night With Reg*** Book of Mormon***** Richard III**** Rock City**
Smaxie
Broadway Legend
joined:9/26/05
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 01:25pm
Running costs top out at $850,000 - which, once again, is in The New York Times story.
Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend
joined:11/4/04
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 02:12pm
I thought Reidel proclaimed NEVERLAND Dead!
MarkBearSF
Understudy
joined:1/25/11
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 03:57pm
"Just saw the tour tonight in SF. The house was crazy.

Really?
https://twitter.com/AllisonSemmes/status/502708567708033024


Well, to be fair, "Diana Ross" DID have to scrounge to find someone to sing "Reach Out and Touch" with - BUT, the blocking was a bit confusing whether she was coming down or not and when she did, on the far house left, in her Miss Ross whisper, said something that wasn't immediately clear. Once it became obvious that she was looking for someone to sing with, the moment had passed and it was a bit awkward.

...and am I the only one that flashed on the Eddie Murphy's old SNL routines of "Buckwheat Sings" and wanted to sing "Make this a better worl ip do tan"







Updated On: 8/23/14 at 03:57 PM
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend
joined:5/28/13
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 05:15pm
If the a**hole with the obnoxiously long signature would take the time to actually read the NY Times article, it states what their capital costs were and a general approximation of what their weekly nut is. The numbers posted by Phantom of London are completely inaccurate.
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend
joined:5/17/03
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 06:05pm
What happens if the show is not a success in London?

Will they wait a long time before bringing it back to Broadway or will they scrap plans to resurrect it?
Cynicism is an unpleasant way of saying the truth - Lillian Hellman.
East Village
Featured Actor
joined:9/23/07
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/22/14 at 09:00pm
This is the school of Barry Gordy economics -- if anyone else is making a buck, he's not happy.
Phantom of London
Broadway Legend
joined:3/26/08
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/23/14 at 07:35pm
'If the a**hole with the obnoxiously long signature would take the time to actually read the NY Times article, it states what their capital costs were and a general approximation of what their weekly nut is. The numbers posted by Phantom of London are completely inaccurate.'

You are really a nasty piece of work, there is professional help out there for troubled people like you, you should seriously consulting a therapist, that specializes in anger issues. How do you know my figures are wrong? If you think you're so smart prove my calculations wrong?
2014 Theatre: Billy Elliot***** Meet Me In St Louis*** American Psycho**** Tell Me On A Sunday**** Jeeves and Wooster: Perfect Nonsense* Stephen Ward**** Charlie and the Chocolate factory*** Dirty Dancing** Stephen Sondheim's Puttin It Together*** Candide*** The Lion King***** The Book of Mormon****** Les Miserable***** Stephen Ward**** The Weir**** Fortune's Fool*** Spamalot*** Superior Doughnuts**** Seven Brides For Seven Brothers**** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Finans Rainbow**** The Commitments** Boeing Boeing*** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) The A-Z of Mrs P** Billy Elliot***** Wicked** Good People***** Urinetown***** Spamalot*** The Full Monty**** Other Desert Cities*** Ghosts*** Dirty Rotten Scoundrels***** It's A Bird, It's A Plane, It's Superman*** Stephen Ward**** King Lear**** A Taste Of Honey** Blithe Spirit**** From Here To Eternity**** Spamalot*** Fiddler On The Roof** (Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Relative Values**** Fatal Attraction*** Matilda***** 39 Steps**** Another Country** Handbagged** Two Into One*** The Beautiful Game***** Let The Right One In**** Once**** Privacy***** Home** Best of Friends** Avenue Q*** Good People***** Betty Blue Eyes*** (Tour: Salisbury Playhouse) I Can't Sing* A View From The Bridge***** Water Babies **** (Tour: Leicester Curve) Miss Saigon***** In The Heights*** The Testament of Mary*** This May Hurt A Bit*** The Last 5 Years* (Greenwich Theatre) All My Sons*** Happy Days** Dirty Rotten Scoundrels**** Bakersfield Mist**** Ushers** The Pajama Game*** Evita*** (Tour: Orchard Theatre, Dartford)Fings Ain't What They Used To Be**** Billy Elliot***** Titus Andronicus**** 1984*** Clarence Darrow**** Miss Saigon***** A Small Family Business*** Things We Do For Love**** Hobson's Choice*** Rock of Ages*** (Tour: Churchill Theatre, Bromley) Zanna, Don't!*** The Silver Tassie** Bring Up The Bodies** Forbidden Broadway**** Carousel**** Hotel*** The Crucible**** Annie Get Your Gun*** (Churchill Theatre, Bromley) Medea*** The Importance of Being Earnest*** The Pajama Game*** Skylight**** Pacific Overtures** The Invincibles*** Julius Ceasar*** Porgy and Bess**** Dessa Rose** Great Britain**** One Man, Two Guvnors**** (Tour: Orchard Theatre, Dartford) Dogfight** My Night With Reg*** Book of Mormon***** Richard III**** Rock City**
LizzieCurry
Broadway Legend
joined:3/7/05
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/23/14 at 09:28pm
Seriously. Your sig is longer than your posts.
"Don't patronize me, alright?" - BroadwayStar4
qolbinau
Broadway Legend
joined:6/29/08
Motown to close January 18th, 2015
Posted: 8/23/14 at 09:39pm
Phantom, if you take out tax and make it 18 mill instead of 17 million the new calculation ends up being approximately 860k per week. This might be slightly higher than the NYTimes quoted figure but it is still pretty close. With some degree of error, it is still a good ball-park calculation we could use to estimate other shows.


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