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yfs
#25Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/7/17 at 9:45pm

Not sure how big the band is, but Tunick did the (new) orchestrations. 

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#26Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/7/17 at 10:37pm

I figured it's another Tunick reduction, but that's strange it's not credited in the playbill. 

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#27Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/7/17 at 11:00pm

I don't see this transferring. It's not even sold out right now. 

If this new version is licensed without 'Chrysanthemum Tea', that'd be really sad.

Also - the show's content/running time isn't holding it back from being licensed. I doubt it's even the full cast of Asian Americans. It's just not a largely well known show, and the subject matter isn't the easiest to hook an audience to. Not sure that these cuts help to reduce either of those issues. 

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#28Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/7/17 at 11:22pm

I highly doubt this will transfer. Doyle's well received PASSION had a better shot at transferring (Roundabout would have been the best choice) and that never happened. The cast recording is quite good though. 

Updated On: 4/7/17 at 11:22 PM

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#30Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/8/17 at 7:27am

 

Oh, no. What disappointing news. Not only is "Chrysanthemum Tea" one of the best musical sequences, but the amount of cutting done to the book to bring the show to 90 minutes must be extensive. I know the book has its detractors, but I personally think it's John Weidman's best work with Sondheim and right up there with NIGHT MUSIC and FORUM. I've never enjoyed reading scripts/libretti, but I can sit and read PACIFIC OVERTURES like a novel. The crisscrossing journeys of Manjiro and Kayama are so beautifully and painfully wrought. I hope this cut-down version retains spirit, if not the scope, of their stories… though I'm tempted to say the two things are irrevocably intertwined Pacific Overtures previews


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#31Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/9/17 at 2:04am

Any updates?  Btw, are there any windowcards?

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#32Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/9/17 at 10:47am

I saw it last night. I understand the skepticism about all the cutting - especially "Chrysanthemum Tea" - but this is a beautiful production that is completely true to the intent of the work.

To clarify a few things: Tunick is indeed credited with the orchestrations on the title page of the Playbill. The orchestra is just large enough to make songs like "There Is No Other Way" and "Pretty Lady" as lush as they need to be. Two keyboards, one woodwind, violin, viola, cello, bass, and two percussionists (surrounded by an impressive array of equipment!).

The stage, as you might expect, is rather bare, but the actors fill it with action. The vocal arrangements are beautiful and all are strong singers. All are in modern Western clothing, but large Japanese scarves (for lack of a better word) are used to symbolize the tension between Japanese and Western forces among the characters. 

Cutting "Chrysanthemum Tea" means the loss of one of the cleverest songs ever written for the musical stage, but it also makes the plot much clearer. Frankly, in my earlier exposures to the show - the YouTube video of the original production, the Japanese production at the Kennedy Center, and the various recordings - I had come to think of Pacific Overtures as more of a sequence of scenes without much structure (somewhat like Assassins). Maybe that's my own stupidity, but in this version the story itself was much, much clearer to me.

In this intimate setting, certain things landed that had never made much of an impression on me before. "Welcome to Kanagawa," performed by Ann Harada with wonderful comic flair, was genuinely funny. The aforementioned "There Is No Other Way" was chilling and touching.

One cut I minded a bit more was for "Next": the "factoids" that relate the story of Pacific Overtures to the present-day status quo were cut entirely. I think that's a mistake, and it seriously reduces the power of the finale.

That being said, I want to stress again that this production, though very minimalist, is true to the show. The orchestra, cast, and the production itself all seemed close to perfect to me. So don't throw away your tickets. :)

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#33Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/9/17 at 2:18pm

Please correct me if I'm wrong but these seem to be the same reduced orchestrations that Tunick created for the Broadway revival.
 

Most critics and audiences have found the original libretto to be too long and dry. I can see why Sondheim would agree to these cuts. If this is the production that makes the musical more accessible and gets critical raves, newly licensing this production for regional and university productions may launch many more productions.


"It does what a musical is supposed to do; it takes you to another world. And it gives you a little tune to carry in your head. Something to take you away from the dreary horrors of the real world. A little something for when you're feeling blue. You know?"

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#34Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/9/17 at 3:10pm

Thank you, kdogg36, for the post. I saw the original 17 times. Looking forward to this production.

 

 

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#35Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/9/17 at 10:12pm

I get tired of reading reviews that start "PACIFIC OVERTURES will never be one of anyone's favorite Sondheim shows.." because it IS one of my favorite Sondheim shows. It's one of those shows that I will travel to see, and I was greatly looking forward to this production.

As everyone has mentioned, it's greatly cut down. 'Next' is so brief that one gets the feeling they needed to get out of the theatre in 90 minutes because they had rented the hall for a bar mitzvah or something. It's completely lost its bite. There is no song list in the Playbill and I found myself thinking 'Hey, what happened to...' and wondering what else was going to disappear.

I was not wowed by the staging. The hanamichi takes up the whole stage, the audience sits on either side, which means the actors are constantly moving back and forth, facing one side, then the next. 'Welcome to Kanagawa' is done on the hanamichi, then it's done in front of the hanamichi, first on one side, then on the other side. Back and forth, to and fro. It becomes so busy you lose the lyrics in all the motion.

As mentioned, the actors are in modern-day western clothes, but surely they could have at least come up with sailor hats for 'Pretty Lady'. Of course those of us who know the show know these are British sailors, but to someone unfamiliar with the book, it would take them awhile to figure it out. (And, in the nit-picky department, the US flag used in 'Please Hello' has 50 stars even though there were 31 states in 1853, and the Russian flag is the Soviet Union flag. I readily concede that I am the only person who seems to care that Millard Fillmore was no longer president in July 1853, having left office the previous March, but hey, the mails were really slow in those days, so how was Perry to know?)

The performances are uniformly excellent. Voices are strong, lyrics are clear (the actors are amplified). Doyle has added a female 'everywoman' type character, who wanders back and forth as the action takes place, which just confused me. They have split the role of the Reciter/Shogun/Emperor between George Takei and Thom Sesma, with Sesma doing most of the heavy lifting. I hate to sound mean, but Takei seems to have aged a decade since his appearance in ALLEGIANCE. He is the only cast member wearing shoes (the rest are in stocking feet) and he shuffles uneasily across the hanamichi, however his voice is strong as always.

'Please Hello', and, of course, 'Someone in a Tree' are standouts. For a brief moment, watching Thom Sesma and Austin Ku as the old man/younger self, I forgave this production all its flaws, and I slipped into that blissful state we all hope to achieve when seeing one of our favorite shows performed before our eyes.

 


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bk
#36Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 2:28am

I'm sorry, it's not a question of Chrysanthemum Tea being a great song or the best in the show, it's IMPORTANT to the show, it wasn't put in to show off a good song, it was put there for a reason and it's brilliant and, for me, any "director" who would have the temerity and chutzpah to cut it is a moron.  The original production was brilliant and it was brilliant because it had a real director.  Yes, it was long and dry in certain ways, but it worked for those willing to invest the concentration - it was never going to be a mainstream show and the creators absolutely knew that and knew it would be a huge money loser.  So, while I'm sure there are little trims that could be made, to lose one of the key songs in the show is just stupid.  I have yet to see a John Doyle show that I haven't loathed.  The guy is the Emperor with no clothes, who had a rather uneventful career until pretty late in his life when he got lucky.  I shall now go play Chrysanthemum Tea.

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#37Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 2:44am

Look,  I'm a big John Doyle fan.  His productions of The Color Purple, Sweeney Todd, Passion, and Company (yes it did kind of look like a funeral home) were all beautiful.  He can dig his way to the emotional core of a piece and strip a production down to it's soul, but the cuts that seem to have been made to Pacific Overtures seems to be a bit much.  It is true that maybe Overtures needs a bit of trimming, but to remove important songs such as Chrysanthemum Tea and The Lion Dance is ridiculous.

Anyways, how was the design of the show.  I can't wait to see some production photos.

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#38Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 3:58am

bk I totally agree with your post!

But I wouldn't describe the book as dry- it is rich with ideas and imagery.  It's just the show expects its audience to listen and think.  What's wrong with that.

There is no need to cut a well-crafted show.  I'm skipping this production.

VintageSnarker
#39Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 4:16am

Thank you for that excellent review, hushpuppy. I think I'll be skipping this one.

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#40Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 9:07am

The only Doyle show I've liked without reservation was A Catered Affair. I liked that very much (and I know I'm in a minority on that one). I've found his other stuff (Sweeney, Company, Mahagonny, Road Show) either reductively gimmicky or lifeless.

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#41Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/10/17 at 9:17am

I hate that "Chrysanthemum Tea" has been cut, but what can you do? Sondheim obviously approved the change and is okay with it.


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#42Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/11/17 at 9:53pm

Well, John Doyle has left me all at sea with this Pacific Overtures.

The show opens with a neo-brechtian prologue where Megan Masako Haley enters the stage and stares at the rest of the cast, who are standing offstage at the end of the runway. They bow and George Takei announces via voiceover "Nippon, the floating kingdom..." The entire cast wears modern garb. As they sing "The Advantages of Floating In the Middle of the Sea" they use different fabrics to create adornments that represent... status? How connected to the ancient ways each character is? Heaven if I know. The show ends along the same lines, but whatever "frame" Doyle is using it as I cannot begin to comprehend. Perhaps Megan is in a museum and is looking at a picture of Japan from 1862 - and she wonders how Japan has come so far in less than 200 years? Your guess is as good as mine.

To explain how Doyle has cut the show, think of it like this: a production of The Seagull that focus entirely on Konstantin and Nina. Any scenes without them are cut. Or maybe even a Follies that is centered around Sally, Ben, Buddy, and Phyllis with all other songs cut. So we'd have time for "Beautiful Girls", "In Buddy's Eyes", and "Could I Leave You?", but say goodbye to the montage, "I'm Still Here", and "One More Kiss". Gone are all the side stories that The Reciter... recites. "Chrysanthemum Tea", "March to the Treaty House", and "The Lion Dance" are cut. Doyle does not even attempt kabuki style, and as a result, the show seems lopsided and unfocused. Before "Poems", the show has been centered almost completely around Kayama and Manjiro. But there is about a half hour ("Welcome to Kanagawa", "Someone In a Tree", and "Please Hello"Pacific Overtures previews where they disappear completely. With the entire script intact, this makes perfect sense. The show is not about these two people, and the show has delved away from them before. The Reciter interrupts them to tell stories, various other scenes with minor characters are played out, and the audience knows not to expect a perfect through-line of a story. But without these diversions, the show seems to forget about the two main characters and ignore them for an odd amount of time.

Doyle seems to have missed the entire point of the show. Pacific Overtures is not about a samurai and a sailor and how their relationship changes through time. It is about the forced westernization of Japan and how an entire culture and way of life was destroyed along with it. Kayama and Manjiro change along with the country and their opposing views on the events are touching, but they are not the centerpiece. Pacific Overtures is perhaps the only musical about ideas rather than people, moreso than even Sunday In the Park With George. And it is also a deeply moving musical about ideas, its power retained through its form. You would never get that from this production.

The cast is good, with my major exception being Steven Eng. Neither his voice nor acting seemed in the same world as anyone else. Megan Masako Haley is wonderful in a thankless role (a cypher added for this production, as well as the briefly seen Tamate). Ann Harda was lovely, though out-of-place when surrounded by men (Megan's role seemed to be from the present, visiting the past, so it was odd that a woman was involved in the "traditional" cast of the show). George Takei seems to have lost a bet. He has virtually no lines and still manages to mess them up. He shows no warmth, and, considering the concept of this production, serves no purpose to the piece. He is there purely as a star to sell seats. Doyle has directed the cast to have sort of "wink wink nudge nudge" attitude towards the audience about some of the lines and lyrics. It is awkward and feels disingenuous to the piece, Weidman, and Sondheim.

The orchestra sounds lovely, and fill up the small space quite well. The actors are heavily mic'd, for some reason, and they still muddle their words. "Please Hello" was garbled, with most of the cast gasping to get the words out. The lyrics you could hear were mostly unintelligible, especially from the British Admiral, the Dutch Admiral, and the choral section that ends the song. Ann Harada seems to have gotten the key changed for her french section, but for the choral end (in the original key) she is so uncomfortable in the register it was hard to hear any of her words. "Welcome to Kanagawa" was so unfunny it was hard to see why it was kept in. "Next" is cut to shreds and does not feel like a finale at all.

But "Someone In a Tree" is gorgeous, moving, and all around thrilling. If any part of this production is worth it, it is the eight minutes they sing this fantastic song. Some of the best music and lyrics ever written, and the staging was simple and almost elegant (apart from some haphazardly thrown paper made to look like leaves). Just cups of tea, and history, and someone in a tree...

Sondheim says, "Content Dictates Form". Doyle has thrown form away and is left with a confused, half-baked production that is unlikely to initiate new fans for the piece or please old ones. If recent productions of classic shows have been billed as Arthur Miller's The Crucible or Tennessee Williams' The Glass Menagerie, there is no doubt how Classic Stage should bill this. Call it John Doyle's Pacific Overtures, because it sure isn't John Weidman or Stephen Sondheim's.


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Updated On: 4/11/17 at 09:53 PM

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#43Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/11/17 at 10:39pm

Am I misreading or am I the only one who remembers there was already a "reduced" version of PACIFIC OVERTURES that was well-received critically and enjoyed a successful run at the Promenade in the early 1980s?

I didn't see the original Broadway production (though I have the OBCR and the published libretto), so I can't say for sure if anything was cut for the "reduced" production. But I know it was beautiful and moving. And they did NOT cut "Chrysanthemum Tea".

Thanks to Buddha that I am 3,000 miles from this John Doyle production that sounds like utter nonsense. (In addition to providing necessary exposition, "CT" is also your average American musical fan's entree to the play.)

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#44Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/11/17 at 11:07pm

Gaveston, I have the script to the production you speak of. Just briefly flipping through it, it seems Doyle has used it as the starting point for this production. There are numerous changes to the book, but at least Sondheim's score remains intact. However, entire scenes and diversions have been cut in this new production, which runs a scant 90 minutes.

For another example of the odd staging techniques used in this production, Doyle uses a prerecorded scream and red lights to indicate a death. It works well for the discovery of Tamate, but makes less sense when "Pretty Lady" ends and a scream is heard and the red lights glow. No dialogue indicated who killed the sailors or why. The climatic duel is laughable because they stand at opposite ends of the stage, raise their swords, and the scream plays with the red lights. I have no idea what Doyle is trying to do with it. (I was also annoyed that Tamate and Kayama sing "There Is No Other Way" to each other as opposed to having two ensemble members sing it while Tamate dances - the piece is also known as "Tamate's Dance", after all).

But if you haven't seen it, I recommend you watch the pro-shoot of the original Broadway production in all its lavish glory. The book may not be as streamlined as the revised version (from the 80s), but it is in no way less moving. I actually think the diversions add to the impact of the final scenes.

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Updated On: 4/12/17 at 11:07 PM

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#45Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/11/17 at 11:11pm

As far as John Doyle's productions go, I'm more often 'in' than 'out' as admiring his work, but I confess I'm on the 'out' bench for this take on PACIFIC OVERTURES. I don't really know what this show was tonight, but it wasn't Pacific Overtures. Others have already articulated some of the head scratching decisions (as well as the strengths, which for me was mostly one number, "Goodbye, Hello."

The long and the short of it is that without the spectacle, without the visual contrast between old and new, the show's theme of Westernization and what is lost / found is diminished. I think the show can be done successfully on a smaller scale than the original (or the British Opera staging which was my introduction to it) but this just felt blanched. I liked the cast but thought Ann Harada felt really out of place.  I also thought the narration in the opening number done off stage on a God mike was bizarre. Maybe George Tekai couldn't remember the lines?


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Updated On: 4/11/17 at 11:11 PM

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#46Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/12/17 at 12:21am

FWIW, according to my friend who is a prominent member of the cast, Weidman was heavily involved in the rehearsal process and supervised all the alterations to the text.  That doesn't validate the changes, but it does indicate that they are authorized and are not the work of Doyle alone.

 

I enjoyed the production more than others here did, but it's certainly very austere and non-traditional.

 

The musical direction is superb, and the orchestra and the vocals are marvelous.  "Someone In A Tree" is absolutely the high point, as it probably should be, and it got a HUGE response at the Sunday matinee.

 

i thought it was nice that George Takei wasn't given a separate bow in the curtain call. He was very kind and gracious with folks at the stage door afterwards.  

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#47Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/12/17 at 12:36am

Weidman was heavily involved in the rehearsal process and supervised all the alterations to the text.

I'm sure he was. Sondheim was also heavily involved in the Roundabout Follies. Unfortunately, these men aren't infallible.


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#48Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/12/17 at 12:56am

I have a history with this show; two performances at the Winter Garden (including the final performance- I met Boris Aronson), the revival at the Promenade, somewhat streamlined (no Goble, no ricksha- it probably wouldn't get through the stage door), the snoozer from Japan at Avery Fisher, and the IRMA LA DOUCE-influenced production at the Donmar in London (via Chicago), with it's ridiculous reference to 9/11 (WHAT?????)!   I thought I'd never pass up a production that came my way.  I was wrong.  I'm disheartened. I'm done. This year's PACIFIC OVERTURES, like this year's TEENY TODD, is something I will just have to live without.


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vegas2
#49Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/12/17 at 2:06am

This is the first production I have ever seen of Pacific Overtures.  Even with nothing to compare it to, I felt like something was missing.  Curtain call felt like it should be merely intermission.  I enjoyed what I saw, but there just wasn't enough there to be satisfying. I think that I would enjoy a more complete production, and I hope that someday I will see one. 

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#50Pacific Overtures previews
Posted: 4/12/17 at 2:21am

I've waited so many years to see a full production of this show, and I'm worried that I've paid full price for a cliffnotes concert.