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Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
blaxx
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#25Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 10:29pm
Ridiculous that Carousel was not on the list; I may vomit.
Don't vomit too much, it is on the list.
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bwaydude22089
Chorus Member Joined: 5/10/13
#26Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 10:37pmI think this list was based on musicals in terms of their writing as well as their originality. If that's the case, I can understand why Hello Dolly and My Fair Lady were left off. They're brilliant, enjoyable shows, but they basically just copy the scripts (for the MOST part) of the plays they are based on. If originality is a huge factor, like I think it is, I can also understand why Book of Mormon is there. And count me satisfied with Guys and Dolls being number 1. The show is flawless.
OperaBwayLover
Broadway Star Joined: 5/17/07
#27Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 10:40pm
Hmmm. Too bad they didn't explain what the thought process was that went into deciding the musical list.
And I need to start reading plays again. :-p
broadway guy
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/5/11
#28Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 10:55pm
Most of Book of Mormon's songs are just knock offs of other musicals.Sal tlay Ka city= Part of your world...etc...etc. Its an original show in a SENSE. Yes you can say LOTS of songs sound like other songs but I'm pretty sure Trey and Matt did this on purpose.
Updated On: 6/27/13 at 10:55 PM
#29Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 11:00pm
The musical list isn't half-bad. In fact, it's only 1/5ths bad with the addition of RENT and, particularly THE BOOK OF MORMON - not enough time has past yet for a judgement to be made of that show. Not sure why RENT and THE BOOK OF MORMON could make it, but not NEXT TO NORMAL. It's not a bad list.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 6/27/13 at 11:00 PM
#30Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 11:08pm
"Guys and Dolls is my favorite show. When done well, it can be hilarious, emotional, and so lively. Find yourselves a copy of the 90s version with Nathan Lane and Faith Prince. Perfection."
How I wish I could find myself a copy of that 90s version. That production always tops the list of shows I would kill to go back in time to see (granted, it's not that far back).
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#31Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/27/13 at 11:10pm
EW trashed RENT when it reviewed it and dismissed it as CATS in Doc Martins. Which doesn't even make sense.
Also, what the hell is August: Osage County doing on that list and Our Town should be number one.
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FishermanBob
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/9/12
#32Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 12:25am
"Guys and Dolls is my favorite show. When done well, it can be hilarious, emotional, and so lively. Find yourselves a copy of the 90s version with Nathan Lane and Faith Prince. Perfection."
Exactly. Even a regional production I saw 5 years ago with Burke Moses and Michele Ragusa was positively electrifying.
There's no right or wrong here. It's just people's opinions. Knowing this board a bit however, I predict this thread will get 400 comments...and Broadway Guy will have written half of them.
#33Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 12:33am
"what the hell is August: Osage County doing on that list"
Seriously? That's a ridiculous question.
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#34Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 1:29amIMO Sweeney tops WSS and My Fair Lady
Well I didn't want to get into it, but he's a Satanist.
Every full moon he sacrifices 4 puppies to the Dark Lord and smears their blood on his paino.
This should help you understand the score for Wicked a little bit more.
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#35Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 1:35am
You shouldn't write "Seriously?" and then punctuate with an animated gif. It makes you look foolish.
And yes A: OC is an AWFUL play.
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DustyC
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#36Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 1:42amEverybody' should write a strongly worded letter to the editor!
#37Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 7:14amAnd where's The Sound of Music?!?
#38Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 8:03am
I think it's silly to include something as recent as Book of Mormon on the list. They do that just to make it current, but something that opened such a short time ago can't be called "all time" anything yet. It hasn't stood the test of any time at all. So many musicals have come and gone as "big sensations" when they first opened. Some stay for decades in people's minds and hearts, and others are forgotten by the following season.
I'm sure if this article had been written the year The Producers came out, that show would be on this "all time" list, too.
I'm not saying Book of Mormon isn't worthy of future consideration, only that it's way too soon to give it that "legendary" honor.
I thought about my Top 10. And I'll give you my criteria. They have to be great in (obviously) their Broadway productions, but also outside in regional, stock, amateur and even academic productions:
1. Oklahoma!
2. Gypsy
3. Guys and Dolls
4. Sweeney Todd
5. A Chorus Line
6. West Side Story
7. The Music Man
8. Hello, Dolly!
9. Fiddler On the Roof
10. My Fair Lady
1. Our Town
2. Death of a Salesman
3. Angels In America
4. Long Day’s Journey Into Night
5. Cat On a Hot Tin Roof
6. Picnic
7. Raisin in the Sun
8. Fences
9. You Can’t Take It With You
10. The Children’s Hour
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#39Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:03amFor me, any musical list MUST include 1776. I guess I'd bump Dolly from Besty's list to make room for it. I must admit that I never saw Channing in the role, but I assume we're basing this on material and not performance, and I think 1776 exceeds Dolly.
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#40Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 9:10am
I suppose I do, too, and it's probably not fair that certain musicals aren't as easy to cast.
1776 is a masterpiece of a show. I played Rutledge in it ages ago, one of my favorite roles ever. But it isn't mounted as often because it's "all guys" and two women. You don't see as many productions of it, for that reason alone. It's a shame, too. The few productions I've seen have been great, even when Ben Franklin is played by a 20-year-old. The material still works, and the show is still wonderful.
That says a lot about how solid it really is.
I would add that's it's probably not fair that I haven't included any African-American musicals (or should I say, musicals that feature African American casts). It's for the same reason ... they just aren't produced as much because they are often difficult to cast outside of major metropolitan areas or professional productions.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#41Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 10:42amYour lists are better best.
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#42Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 11:06am
Yes, I think the comparison between The Producers and Book of Mormon is natural in terms of the sensation created by each. But The Producers was not, from the beginning, a great show. Nathan Lane is what made the show fun.
And, pardon me, but it seems that posters here don't recognize that BOM is actually a wonderful and even profound show. It makes very serious points about religion and humanity in incredibly hilarious ways. sure there are easy religion jokes but there is much more below the surface. And, to create a show about making fun of mental featherweights then to carefully tweak the plot and dialog so that the audience actually cares about them takes incredible skill.
We find out that Elder Price is being "the best ...ever" because he only wants to go back to Orlando and ultimately has nothing to do with his devotion to God. But when a man is actually shot who is next to him, Price is forced to recognize that the world is a horrible place and not anything that is suggested by "Orlando". There are no jokes in the show about the killing, only serious reflection by Price while his clean white shirt is spattered with human blood.
The music, lyrics are wonderful; memorable, catchy, clever. and, i feel like I want to apologize for this next point, but Sal Tlay Ka Siti is one of the best (and sweetest) show tunes of all time. Sure, the BOM songs are intentionally reminiscent of other shows. It's funny.
BOM does what good art is supposed to do; help the viewer to see things in ways as never before.
You may be right, that it is too soon to make "all-time" conclusions. But for me, at this time, BOM belongs on that list.
Updated On: 6/28/13 at 11:06 AM
#43Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 12:29pm
On August: Osage County, I just have to say I have read it maybe 5 times and each time I find some new bit of sybolism, foreshadowing, and social comentary. The prologue alone is reason enough of a reason for it to be on the list.
I will agree that it js a lie early to judge Book of Mormon for posterity purposes. In my opinion you can't really judge a musical's longevity until you allow regional productions to be produced without th lavish sets and costumes.
iluvtheatertrash
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/9/04
#44Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 1:00pmClyde - That was the best use of Big Ang EVER.
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#45Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 1:17pmIt's Entertainment Weekly folks. Don't take it so seriously.
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pinoyidol2006
Broadway Star Joined: 5/3/11
#46Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 2:10pmIt's really not a terrible list. I would find it difficult to boil down my favorite musicals into a "Top 10". I probably have a solid list of 10-15 that would be good contenders, but within that set of shows, I wouldn't have an incredibly strong ordinal preference of one over another.
I like your imperturbable perspicacity.
Broadway Star Joined: 12/31/69
#47Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 2:24pm
How long before we can stop having the creative superiority of Book of Mormon trotted out with regularity? It's a mediocre spoof at best.
And yes, I'd agree Besty has a better list- but EW lists exist solely to spur conversations, so mission accomplished.
#48Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 3:02pm
"How long before we can stop having the creative superiority of Book of Mormon trotted out with regularity? It's a mediocre spoof at best."
Perhaps until the creative superiority is generally recognized. Many posters here remarked on how shocked they were to see BOM on the list. It was perfectly acceptable to present another viewpoint. sorry for trotting but...
The show is brilliant.
Wilmingtom
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/18/11
#49Entertainment Weekly's 50 Best Plays (and 10 Greatest Musicals) Over the Past 100 Years
Posted: 6/28/13 at 3:34pm
No Show Boat? Such an important show and it has certainly proven its staying power. I like your lists, best12, but would have to get Carousel in there, and perhaps cut the homosexual panic play, The Children's Hour, which has not aged especially well. And I might replace Cat with Streetcar.
As for A:OC, I, like the Pulitzer and Tony voters, think it's a monumental play and I guess Hollywood does as well. But then I'm not a big fan of 1776 so there's just no accounting for taste.
