SMASH

NYadgal
Broadway Legend
joined:5/18/04
SMASH
Posted: 2/20/12 at 11:37pm
I liked it, too.

Some interesting new characters and some new storyline development.

Hopefully it will start to really move forward next week.
"Two drifters off to see the world... there's such a lot of world to see"
E.Davis
Broadway Legend
joined:1/1/08
SMASH
Posted: 2/20/12 at 11:39pm
Ellis is straight....hrmmmm.
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EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
SMASH
Posted: 2/20/12 at 11:39pm
All the critics/bloggers claim that episode four is really where it finds its rhythm, so I guess we'll see...
NYadgal
Broadway Legend
joined:5/18/04
SMASH
Posted: 2/20/12 at 11:44pm
Ellis can neither be believed nor trusted!

His storyline tonight was one of the interesting ones.
"Two drifters off to see the world... there's such a lot of world to see"
ACL2006
Broadway Legend
joined:2/11/06
SMASH
Posted: 2/20/12 at 11:52pm
really...Ellis is straight?? Who saw that coming??
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ucjrdude902
Broadway Legend
joined:3/11/07
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:06am
It's got me for now, but I think alot of that is Messing who I love. Call me oblivious but what exactly could Ellis due? I mean really? What proof does he have that Marilyn was his idea?
CurtainPullDowner
Broadway Legend
joined:11/4/04
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:06am
Manny Azzenberg was hysterical as Manny Azzenberg,
but why didn't they just cast Ron Orbach in the part?
Did anyone else see the Irony of Messing telling Borle that sex with a co-star/worker is just psrt of the Theatre?
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend
joined:9/16/07
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:14am
I would like it if someone could tell Theresa Rebeck there are other adjectives besides "amazing."
EricMontreal22
Broadway Legend
joined:10/31/11
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:20am
^ So true.
luvtheEmcee
Broadway Legend
joined:12/9/03
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 01:45am
Ugh. I really, really want to like this show. I was so excited about it, but I find nearly everything about it totally annoying.
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Idiot
Broadway Star
joined:10/9/10
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 02:02am
Things I learned from tonight's episode:

*Girlfriends in Iowa are unbearably chipper.
*Anjelica doesn't want the people in the back of the house to miss a thing.
*Broadway is very, very heterosexual.
Owen22
Broadway Legend
joined:2/24/11
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 03:41am
Marilyn's life was a story we all know. It is the source material for the musical. Messing and Borle's characters have read many books about her life and have gone ahead and first musicalized the "hot" moments, as opposed to writing the show linearly. They will go back and fill in book sections between the numbers. Of course things will change as the show is developed, but their musical theatre technical writing style is not terribly unusual.
DottieD'Luscia
Broadway Legend
joined:7/23/03
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 06:57am
Although I have watched all 3 episodes of Smash so far, last night's had the feeling liked they skipped an episode. My issues (in random order):

I have always liked the the character of Ellis. It's obvious they're making him the villian as opposed to Derrick. Would never have pegged Ellis as straight though and if this is all part of his intrigue then I'm all for it. His "girlfriend" in the first scene came off like a friend. Their discussion of whether or not he was getting compensated for the Marilyn idea seemed kind of new to them, but if they're involved I think it would have been discussed at length instead of, "gee, let me try to get some proof".

The rehearsal number back and forth to the staged version novelty is quickly wearing off. I felt there was no need to do that to the Marilyn and Joe number.

The Derrick/Ivy Lynn relationship seems like it was thrown together. One minute she's auditioning, next thing they're an item.

Debra Messings character (sorry can't recall her name at the moment) is very distrustful of Ellis, yet spills the beans about her affair without even thinking he might be nearby. I saw that one coming from a mile away.

Will Chase and his wife had way too much screen time. New characters some times have to gradually be introduced. I felt like, "who are these people, and who cares?"

All that being said, I will still tune in next week. But I felt the writing this week was pretty shabby.
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PalJoey
Broadway Legend
joined:3/11/04
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 07:38am
Call me oblivious but what exactly could Ellis due?

Tom's statements in the first episode "After all, this was your idea" and "I'm interested in your input" are enough to establish a claim. Ellis could easily hire a copyright lawyer who could ask for a not-insubstantial amount of the authors' 6% weekly royalties.

Even if he ended up getting a fraction of 1%, it could still be considerable. Even if he was awarded nothing, the attendant publicity would be bad for Tom and bad for the show.

It was a stupid, stupid, stupid thing for Christian Borle's character to have done.
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broadwaybabywannabe2
Featured Actor
joined:11/9/11
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 08:32am
SMASH WEEK 3:...the 'MR. AND MRS SMITH' number last night was right out of 'SOMEHERE THAT'S GREEN' from "Little Shop Of Horrors"...and i said i dont like so much sex goings-on...i want to see more musical numbers...they are Broadway to me...and why are we not seeing more of the workshop of the proposed musical...that would really be more fun to watch than who screws who...sorry sex is not that interesting, just obvious
Jane2
Broadway Legend
joined:2/13/04
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 09:51am
I'm watching this am after dvr'ing last night. The guy playing Angelica Houston's husband's acting is baaaad.

I have to agree with others who say this episode is losing me but will wait until next week in hopes it gets better.
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Eris0303
Broadway Legend
joined:7/30/07
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 09:58am
I'm curious about what Ellis saw in the notebook that was so interesting and what relevance does it have to the "angry" comment he made to Julia.

Also, wouldn't stealing the notebook hurt the chances of any legal proceedings started because of the contents? Or does "illegal search & seizure" only count when the govenment does it?
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prlny
Swing
joined:7/24/09
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 10:02am
Did anyone else find it annoying that one couple or another was kissing every 3 or 4 minutes throughout the show?
Michael Bennett
Broadway Legend
joined:3/16/05
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 10:06am
Suffice to say that ignoring reality both in terms of how the biz actually works and any actual potential legality to the backstabbing that's getting ready to come is paramount to enjoying this series.

Suspending reality gets easier starting next week when we get to descend into straight soap opera.
wonkit
Broadway Legend
joined:9/30/08
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 10:31am
I am gradually slipping away from this series. The soap is just overwhelming the unique parts of this story. Beginning to remind me (sadly) of Playboy Club - good people trapped in a stinker. Can the writing possibly get any worse?
Gothampc
Broadway Legend
joined:5/20/03
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 10:49am
The writing on this show sucks. You have an excellent actress like Anjelica Huston and all you can have her do is throw drinks in her ex-husband's face...three times???? What's next? Jack Davenport smooshing a grapefruit in Megan Hilty's face?
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CukorLover
Featured Actor
joined:11/14/08
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 11:58am
Ratings continue to decline:

"The news for Smash wasn't good though falling another half a point with adults 18-49 to a 2.3 adults 18-49 rating."


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/21/tv-ratings-monday-the-voice-down-slightly-but-leads-smash-alcatraz-continue-to-fall-most-cbs-shows-recover-castle-inches-up/120824/



Updated On: 2/21/12 at 11:58 AM
TheaterAddict17
Swing
joined:3/21/11
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:00pm
I was really excited about this show when it premiered but these last two episodes have been losing my interest. The trailer for the next episode looks a little more promising though! Fingers crossed.
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend
joined:6/28/07
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:35pm
I didn't think the episode was great. I also think that Eileen throwing wine at Jerry is too much like the teens on 'Glee' get slushies thrown at them. Most sources say that episodes 2 & 3 are not as great, but things really start to pick up in episode 4.

Ratings continue to decline:

"The news for Smash wasn't good though falling another half a point with adults 18-49 to a 2.3 adults 18-49 rating."

I think part of the problem was that some television stations like mine did not show previews for this week's episode. But it is unfortunate that the show is now going down the path that 'Pan Am' went with ratings.

However, like I said earlier, it might end up like 'Parks & Recreation' and '30 Rock'. Neither of those shows were hits with ratings yet critics really liked them. The former got mixed reviews in its first season because most people compared it to 'The Office' and Amy Poehler thought it could've been better. Fortunately, the show improved over its next seasons.
ace33
Stand-by
joined:8/9/10
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:37pm
Will Chase's blue eyes made this episode worth it!
beautywickedlover
Broadway Legend
joined:6/28/07
SMASH
Posted: 2/21/12 at 12:44pm
I still find it disappointing that the show had inconsistent script writing in its 2nd and 3rd episodes. I felt that 'Once Upon a Time' has had consistently good episodes since it first premiered.

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