i realize you big city folks have probably had the film a while and it's old hat, but it just hit the provinces. Given the cameo toward the end, i'm surprised there's not a thread here. Did i miss one?!?! and does anyone know if Todd Graff is related to singer Randy Graff? also, the music director and score composer is listed as Stephen Trask, is he from HEDWIG fame? a lot of the songs, though, seem to be from Lesley Gore if i read the rather quick credit crawl correctly. Is she still alive?!?!? Trask didn't seem to have written many of the actual numbers... Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."

There have been a few threads. My close friend plays Michael (Robin De Jesus.) Right now, the cast is in Europe promoting the film. There was a thread about Anna Kendrick and how everyone loved her. Todd Graff is related to Randy Graff. Robin told me I think they are cousins? I forget, but they are def. related.

yeah, that last name is a little too unusual for two folks to adapt it as a stage name. Robin was very good; i liked how unpretentious the three central performances were. Do you know the backstory on the original songs used for the film? did you go to the workshop version the credits allude to? Will: They don't give out awards for helping people be gay... unless you count the Tonys. "I guarantee that we'll have tough times. I guarantee that at some point one or both of us will want to get out. But I also guarantee that if I don't ask you to be mine, I'll regret it for the rest of my life..."

I know that Sondheim gave the rights to Todd for very little and that is why they did the movie. They were on a tight budget with the movie only costing 1.6 million to make.

I saw it for my first time last night. It was cute. I really didn't like the ending...but oh well. The songs were amazing! "Here's Where I Stand" was AMAZING! I'm as jumpy as a virgin at a prison rodeo!

That is the song they performed on The David Letterman Show. It is also my favorite on the soundtrack. CCM '10!

I really got to see this movie! Unfortunatly, I live in the middle of nowhere, so the odds of me getting to see it are slim to none.

I saw Camp a couple of weeks ago. Thought it was cute, and I nearly cried when they showed Steve Sondheim, but what was with all the cussing? Seriously, was that necessary? I didn't like that.

I found it terribly funny when Fritzie said "Well, she's f*cked, and the show must go on!" or something of the sort. And she was swearing up a storm. It was great, then she broke the glass. I nearly peed myself. I'm as jumpy as a virgin at a prison rodeo!

Yeah, I loved when she sang The Ladies Who Lunch...Anna Kendrick was great...that was probably my favorite part... Who sang And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going? Was that Ellen? I never figured it out.

Yes, it was Ellen. She looked so funny with the wig. I'm as jumpy as a virgin at a prison rodeo!

Ya that was the girl who played Ellen. All the singing was done by the real actors. The line is: Listen rummy, shes fu*ked and I'm ready! I love it!

I also, will not get to see it due to the crappy release dates! CCM '10!

i need to see it again. and Benzy92, tell "Michael" that he makes a very good woman! he totally fooled me. i didn't know it was him at the end of the movie until i got the cd and watched the little clips...i wish i was a size 4... xo whitney *dramatic pause*kick-ball-change*riff/ad-lib high note* gotta love cher

what cussing?

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Why isn't And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going on the soundtrack? Grrrr. If it was, I'd want to get it.

I'm sure it's Geffen's fault, again. I think we've finally reached the point in our society where "celebrity" just means "mammal." -- Seth Meyers

Here's the connection: Todd Graff was a Broadway musical actor, who starred in BABY, among other things. (He also did the workshop of CARRIE, which figures in this history). He is Randy Graff's cousin. He went to Stagedoor Manor, the camp that the film is about, with Dean Pitchford. Dean Pitchford (who was a Broadway actor himself, starring in the ill-fated "The Little Prince and the Aviator" with Ellen Green), also co-wrote many of the songs from the movie FAME with Christopher Gore, who is pop star Lesley Gore's brother. (And yes, she's still alive.) Pitchford also wrote the lyrics for CARRIE. The Gores (Michael, Christopher and Lesley) seem to have a great affinity for musical theatre artists, and continue to work with them, and they collaborated on many of the songs for the score of CAMP. Pitchford also has a DANCE OF THE VAMPIRES connection, in that he wrote the lyrics for "Holding Out for a Hero" for the movie FOOTLOOSE, which was composed by Jim Steinman, but that's another "six degrees" topic.

Ooh, one final odd connection, and I don't know the reason for it. So if anyone does, I'd love to hear it. The finale song in CAMP, "For the Want of a Nail" was written by Todd Rundgren. It was released on an album of Todd Rundgren songs that also included two songs from his musical UP AGAINST IT, which premiered at the Public and starred Roger Bart and Alison Fraser. I haven't been able to figure out the Todd Graff connection there, but I imagine there is one. If anyone knows the answer, I'd love to know.

I will hopefully get the DVD for Christmas. I have not seen the movie yet. CCM '10!

I like the movie but the acting is a little... blah. Those kids can SING though! I have the soundtrack, because it spares me from having to watch some of the not so great acting between the awesome songs Here in this cold white room tied up to these machines, it's hard to imagine life as it used to be. Laughing, screaming, tumbling queen... Like the most amazing light show you've ever seen. Whirling, swirling, never blue... How could you go and die? What a selfish thing to do... RIP Jason

You couldn't pay me to watch this junk again. "I've got to get me out of here This place is full of dirty old men And the navigators and their mappy maps And moldy heads and pissing on sugar cubes While you stare at your books."

reasons That I LOVE Camp -- Vince Rimoldi Tracee Beazer Sasha Allen Dequina Moore Ryan Fitzgerald Anna Kendrick Steven Cutts

Don't forget Daniel Letterle for eye candy purposes, BG2! That's Vlad's name, right? hehe