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Sondheim doesn't want Streisand to direct Gypsy?
Posted by chanel 2013-02-28 12:19:36


That rapscallion.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/2013/02/sondheim_wont_l.php

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 12:26:20


Thank ya, Jeezus!

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 12:26:58


This needs to be directed by John Carpenter.

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-02-28 12:33:24


The lyricist has director approval of all future adaptations of hid work? Man, I want HIS agent.

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Posted by Ed_scotch 2013-02-28 12:42:18


Seriously!

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 12:44:57


Well to be fair, he's not just ANY lyricist.

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Posted by ljay889 2013-02-28 12:58:50


So chanel IS Musto?

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-28 13:12:07


Maybe chanel is that lemonwade blog.

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Posted by madbrian 2013-02-28 13:14:26


I wouldn't have a problem with her directing it. I'd be much more concerned with her playing Rose.

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 13:25:52


With regards to Sondheim's power of approval... As Jordan said, he's not just any lyricist, but I think his power over GYPSY has risen as all the other members of the creative team are deceased. For all we know, Styne and Laurents estates assigned their approval/veto power over to Sondheim.

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Posted by SondheimFan5 2013-02-28 13:30:35


What director's wife played the female lead??

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-02-28 13:34:33


No, I'm sorry- my respect for Mr. Sondheim knows no bounds but someone explain how this works. The lyricist NEVER gets director approval- hell, the AUTHOR never gets directorial approval.

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 13:35:39


Right but again, this is Stephen Sondheim. Those 2 words kind of trumps everything else.

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Posted by DottieD'Luscia 2013-02-28 13:37:36


Maybe that's his way of saying he doesn't want her to star in it either.

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 13:44:01


To answer SondheimFan5's question: Helena Bonham Carter in husband Tim Burton's film of SWEENEY TODD. Normally I like her in most films, but I thought she was awful in SWEENEY.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-28 13:44:31


Or maybe lemonwade (lemonade on the bww link) is just making crap up.

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Posted by AEA AGMA SM 2013-02-28 13:45:37


"What director's wife played the female lead??"

I would assume that would be Helena Bonham Carter. Even though she and Tim Burton are not actually married she is still pretty much referred to as his wife and not just a girlfriend or partner.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-28 13:47:59


Musto doesn't need FACTS

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Posted by kieranbec 2013-02-28 13:58:57


I agree that this is most likely him trying to kill the whole project. Streisand has been trying to make this happen for years and if she is out than then it won't happen.

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Posted by Roscoe 2013-02-28 14:08:46


But it seems he's fine with Rob Marshall doing INTO THE WOODS, so there you go.

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 14:12:31


Some of you probably recall this situation more clearly than I but I remember when Streisand was preparing THE BROADWAY ALBUM she asked Sondheim if he would agree to a few, minor lyric changes. As far as I know, they worked things out smoothly and the changes occurred, but perhaps now he fears as director she would be constantly asking for changes in lyrics and libretto and he just doesn't want to invite that sort of aggravation.

Also, as some of you have stated, this is probably Sondheim's way of shutting down the whole enterprise. Apparently, Laurents caved in to her to star in the film just before he died, so she has that agreement to hang on to, but I'm sure he did not approve her as director as well.

Despite how gifted she is, she's simply far too old for the role, and would likely request all sorts of compensation in the material to justify.

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Posted by tazber 2013-02-28 14:15:23


I'm madbrian here. I think she's a fine director. But after seeing and hearing her Sunday night at the Oscar's she has no business. playing Rose.

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 14:20:37


It wouldn't be a proper discussion without our beloved madbrians!

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Posted by Claudia Draper 2013-02-28 14:46:02


She was never going to Direct. IMO- The 3 rumored director are Spielberg, Todd Haynes or Mike Nicols. Spielberg would be great and can handle her, I think w/ Haynes she would take over, She would kill Mike Nicols at his age. But any are good. Also, Alex Baldwin as Herbie. Gaga as Louise. Then, she directs Skinny & Cat in Jan. w/ Colin Firth and Cate Blanchett.

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Posted by eperkins 2013-02-28 14:53:27


I'm not sure why anyone would think a lyricist would not have any veto rights on the licensing of a property. He is part of the creative team that owns the rights, and he would have as much right as anyone on the team to give or withhold rights. Depending on the underlying agreement on how to handle things if there is a dispute among the team.

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Posted by Patash 2013-02-28 15:02:46


In the new film of Gypsy, Steisand plays a very old Mama Rose, sitting down and reflecting on her life done in flashback, which is then played by a younger actress and Streisand's voice sometimes playing over the "memory" scenes.

OK, just thinking aloud here.

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-02-28 15:23:10


I'm not trying to be obtuse- but when we speak of "the rights" to a musical being sold to the movies, we're speaking of the fruits of a whole team of creators- plus others who might "own" a part of the show. I would assume (feel free to correct me) that the rights to the show were (are still?) owned by David Merrick and Leland Hayward (well, their heirs) who produced the show. They (as producers) signed contracts with the creative team (Styne, Sondheim, Rose Hovic, Jerome Robbins) that spelled out their share of any subsequent sales or productions and any codicils those creators could come up with (Like Robbins insisting that any future production proclaim "Originally staged by Jerome Robbins").

This all gets spelled out in contracts. Now I've heard talk for years that Laurents had to "sign off" on ANY production of Gypsy done any where at any time but I always assumed that was "just talk." But I suppose- Gypsy WAS his idea and he did have some clout back then.

Sondheim, aside from being the most talented man to ever trod the boards and a certifiable genius from age 12 on, DID NOT have the clout back then. So does he really have the authority to put the kibosh on a multimillion dollar film with a word?

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-02-28 15:25:02


PS I have read that Merrick sold his rights to Hayward during rehearsals- but his name is still listed on IBDB as "Producer"- so I guess it's time to plumb another Broadway truth....

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Posted by ggersten 2013-02-28 15:47:43


>>In the new film of Gypsy, Steisand plays a very old Mama Rose, sitting down and reflecting on her life done in flashback, which is then played by a younger actress and Streisand's voice sometimes playing over the "memory" scenes.<<

While Rose is in the police station under investigation for murder!

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Posted by Gothampc 2013-02-28 15:48:19


Sondheim is just a puppet. If you want to know who is really driving this decision, you have to look at who the puppet-master is.

Now we all know that there is one person who has more control over Sondheim than anyone else in this world. This person holds a dark, horrible secret over Sondheim's head. It's a secret that was learned one fatal night at an event that was intended to be a joyous celebration. This secret was stumbled on quite accidentally when a certain party guest, opened the wrong door and stumbled upon a secret so macabre that nobody in polite society would dare speak its name.

If you really want to know who killed Barbra's chances with the Gypsy movie, you need look no further than Angela Lansbury in the hallway with a polaroid camera.

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Posted by darquegk 2013-02-28 16:26:39


Brilliant story,Goth- truth or just delicious dish?

Sounds like a sequel to The Last Of Sheila.

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Posted by fflagg 2013-02-28 17:11:26


Let her direct and play one of the strippers.

Catherine Z Jones can play Rose and Gaga can be Louise.

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Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-02-28 17:21:19


Commercially speaking, Madonna as Rose and Gaga as Louise are the best team for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I already hear the complaints about Madge's vocals, but even those of you complaining would buy tickets. Don't lie.

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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-02-28 17:25:41


I certainly would not...and I ain't lying.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-28 17:27:12


I thought Gaga doesn't appear in another guise other than Lady Gaga, even at home?

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-28 17:28:07


Commercially speaking, I don't think Madonna is a box office draw.

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 17:33:09


I wish Madonna would do another musical with a really great director. I'd also like Alan Parker to do another musical ASAP.

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-02-28 17:40:26


"Commercially speaking, I don't think Madonna is a box office draw."


Truer words have never been spoken. NEVER.

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Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-02-28 18:10:33


^ Of course not, not on her own. But the combo of her and Gaga, plus their feud in the press, plus the gimmick of the "mother" and "daughter" thing... it fits. I'd even go one step further and let Streisand direct them in the roles.

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 18:15:51


Please no Gaga.

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 18:17:47


Madonna, Gaga, and Streisand all in the same room together, for months! Yeah, that would go well.

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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 18:31:28


Is it disgusting that I kind of really like the idea of Catherine Zeta-Jones as Rose?
Probably.
Honestly, I loved Natalie Wood's Louise so much, but I don't think I consider anyone to be the definitive Rose yet, so I don't hate the idea of people playing with the role. Not Madonna though. Anyone but Madonna.

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 18:40:52


Really? Anyone but Madonna?

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Posted by henrikegerman 2013-02-28 18:47:01


Nobody should direct herself as Rose.

(I could add least of all Streisand and much less Streisand at this age, but that would be de trop)

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Posted by GavestonPS 2013-02-28 19:12:53


Is it disgusting that I kind of really like the idea of Catherine Zeta-Jones as Rose?

Not disgusting, but delusional unless you are imagining a non-musical version.

Catherine Zeta-Jones is not a singer! We already have one movie-musical version with a non-singer in a role written for one of the greatest singers in Broadway history. We do not need another one.

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Posted by Gothampc 2013-02-28 19:13:55


"Brilliant story,Goth- truth or just delicious dish?"

I made that up. But there is a funny rumor that one time an actress (some say Lee Remick, some say Angela Lansbury) opened the wrong door at Sondheim's house and walked into his dungeon and saw a boy hanging there in a leather harness.

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Posted by Gothampc 2013-02-28 19:15:15


I still want to see:

Angela Lansbury as Elektra

Chita Rivera as Tessie Tura

Elaine Stritch as Mazeppa

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Posted by egghumor 2013-02-28 19:30:38


IF we're going with the Madonna/Gaga/Streisand trio (and only if) then I'd like to see:

Harvey Fierstein as Mazeppa

RuPaul as Elektra

Lypsinka as Tessie Tura

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 19:36:53


I want an all drag movie of GYPSY and I'm not even joking.

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Posted by JohnBoy2 2013-02-28 19:45:08


I'll take an all drag GYPSY over one starring Madonna, Gaga or Streisand.

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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 20:14:28


"Really? Anyone but Madonna?"

Ok, fine, not ANYONE but Madonna... but she's at the bottom of my list.

And I don't consider CZJ to be a singer but I don't consider her to be a non-singer either... does that make any sense? She was a West End performer before she became a big moooooovie star and she was actually quite good. (She was Peggy in 42nd Street at 17).

If they do a remake, I think I would really like to have some kind of interesting spin on Rose though. There are so many "AH LOOK AT ME I AM MADAME ROSE MWAHAHAHA" Roses out there, but the real Rose was not really like that. June Havoc said a while back that the only realistic Rose she's seen was Bernadette Peters. Maybe we could see a Gypsy that's more based on the real story?

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Posted by Playbilly 2013-02-28 20:38:01


That boy in the harness wasn't Anthony Perkins, was it?

No, that would be pyscho.

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Posted by ljay889 2013-02-28 20:47:58


I don't think Gaga is right for such a traditional role.

In terms of current pop stars, Katy Perry is much more appropriate in matching the burlesque aspect of the character. Not sure if she could act it.



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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 20:58:42


Speaking of me being disgusting... I like Katy Perry.
Lady Gaga would be a horrible Louise. Katy might be decent, but probably not. Honestly, casting is not going to be perfect though, so unless they're actually planning on doing something new, I don't really understand why they feel the need to do Gypsy again. And it's one of my favourite musicals but still.

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Posted by justoldbill 2013-02-28 21:15:01


If Streisand doesn't do GYPSY, is she yet old enough for MAME?

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Posted by goldenboy 2013-02-28 21:24:38


Didn't you guys see the Gullt Trip?????Barbara on film doesn't look a day older than 50. Heck She can pass for 40's. Trust me.. 70 is the new 40. Well okay 50. And to hear that voice and that personality as Rose!! It would be amazing. And what a career capper!!!! And I think this Sondheim disapproving is being blown out of proportion. Just because some gossip columnist says its so.. doesn't make it so. Gossip columnists love to stir the pot. That's their job.

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Posted by GavestonPS 2013-02-28 22:18:43


"That voice?" Did you watch the Oscars? There's no way Streisand can sing Rose any more.

If the rumors are true that she recorded tracks for Rose's songs 10 years ago, they should just release those for download.

"And I don't consider CZJ to be a singer but I don't consider her to be a non-singer either... does that make any sense?"

Yes, but you're comparing Peggy Sawyer--a role originally written for dancer-but-not-really-a-singer Ruby Keeler with a role written for Ethel Merman!

Tyne Daly couldn't really sing it either, but she's one of the greatest actresses alive. CZJ is not in that league.

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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 22:23:58


Yeah, I see what you mean. Honestly, I really don't see why they're doing this. We already have a movie of Gypsy, and although Rosalind Russel was not the best Rose, Natalie Wood really hit it out the park (probably because Gypsy is essentially her life story), and there have been SO many great Roses already. Streisand can't sing it, as we learned from the Oscars. Why don't we just let Gypsy take a break?
Gypsy - the hardest working show in show business.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-28 22:24:27


I don't really see Sondheim putting a stop to this either. I know hehas spoken out against production of his plays that make major changes (ie a gay take on Company, or doing Merrily chronologically)--but otherwise he prides himself on allowing people to try new things with his plays as long as they're true to the text. Of course this would be a big budget Hollywood picture, not a small regional one, but...

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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 22:27:55


I can't imagine they're not going to play with it, tweak it somehow.
(p.s. I'm from Montreal too)

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-28 22:32:58


(I only spent ten years there--but I miss the city, nice to see someone else from it here :) )

I kinda agree. (then again if CamMak really wants to make a new Oliver, that seems even odder, since we already have a movie that's arguably better than the stage version.)

Of course, I'm a fan of the Bette Midler production myself. Yes she's too over the top for the small screen, but I appreciate how faithful it is to the stage version, lots of the performances, the original choreography, etc. (of course both editions of the DVD are out of print.)

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Posted by Emma White 2013-02-28 22:37:06


I've seen that version (it's on youtube in full, if I'm not mistaken) and I enjoyed her Rose too, but I seem to be the only person who genuinely cares about the part of Louise. She's one of my dream roles... And I consider Natalie Wood to be the definitive (Laura Benanti was quite good too).
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I adore Bernadette's Rose.

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Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-28 22:40:12


Yep. You are literally the ONLY person who cares about that.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-28 22:40:52


Oh Wood is the best thing in the original Gypsy film for me--she's just ideally cast, IMHO. I think Cynthia Gibb was pretty good in the TV remake (she actually looks a lot like Wood,) but I agree with you.

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Posted by Borstalboy 2013-02-28 22:46:27


Can we just agree that GYPSY doesn't and will not work as a film and just leave it on the stage where it belongs?


I'm sure there will be another revival in oh, two to three years or so.

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Posted by Caring Soul 2013-02-28 23:03:22


To all the concerned ageists: yes, we saw at the Oscars that la Streisand looks terrible and can't sing anymore.

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Posted by GavestonPS 2013-03-01 18:11:23


Emma, I think it's a shame we don't have a great film version of GYPSY. There's nothing inherently non-cinematic about the show.

And I care very much about Louise: she's the emotional center of the show, at least until "Rose's Turn." Nan Tucker replaced her sister Zan Charisse and played Louise with Lansbury in Florida. Nan's "Little Lamb" and "All I Need Is the Girl" reduced me to tears every night. And her "Strip" was hilarious and glamorous at the same time. (And she was taller even than Lansbury, which allowed for a great moment at the very end when Angie put her head on Nan's shoulder. The child became the mother of her mother.)

Caring Soul, I don't think it's ageist to acknowledge the obvious: based on recent live performances, Streisand can't sing the part any more. That isn't to say she should stop singing, just that some roles are now beyond her. Which happens to every singer and takes nothing away from one of the most legendary careers of the past century.

Eric, if Midler was too big for the small screen, what would she have been if she were 40 feet high? What a shame! That should have been the keeper.

But back to agreeing with Emma: unless the perfect film casting comes along, let's forget about a remake. Somebody will revive it on Broadway any day now.

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Posted by kieranbec 2013-03-02 04:48:42


"I'm sure there will be another revival in oh, two to three years or so."

Maybe Imelda Staunton's version will transfer. Any news on if that's still happening?

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Posted by jimmycurry01 2013-03-02 11:45:14


of course both editions of the DVD are out of print.

Actually it will be back in print this month in one of those double feature DVDs. It will be paired with the Glenn Close South Pacific.

http://www.amazon.com/Gypsy-South-Pacific-Musical-Mini-Series/dp/B00B04NJ2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362242996&sr=8-1&keywords=gypsy+south+pacific

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Posted by Playbilly 2013-03-02 22:30:30


The Oscars showed Shirley Bassey could sing Rose.

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Posted by givesmevoice 2013-03-02 23:09:07


Maybe Imelda Staunton's version will transfer. Any news on if that's still happening?

I thought Imelda Staunton wasn't really interested in doing any extended engagements in the US. Is that true or am I confusing something?

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Posted by AEA AGMA SM 2013-03-02 23:52:46


You are correct, givesmevoice. There was never any talk of it actually transferring to the US, just a lot of wishful thinking. She did indeed state that appearing on Broadway was not something that interested her because she didn't want to spend an extended period away from her home.

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Posted by all that jazz 2013-03-03 13:44:08


I could definitely see Gaga as Louise, she certainly has the voice, she can act and her strip would be beyond spectacular.

As far as I'm concerned Barbra could still sing Rose. We can't judge her based on her Oscar's performance (which to me was perfect) because that song is not at all the like the Gypsy music. She wasn't belting there.

I hope that they will still do the film even if Barbra's out because there are so many legendary Broadway divas, who deserve to have their big break on Hollywood.

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Posted by GavestonPS 2013-03-03 21:53:29


all that jazz, did you see her "Live at the Village Vanguard"? Same voice and lack thereof.

You think maybe there's a reason she isn't belting the high notes any more?

She's still a unique stylist with much to offer as a singer. She just isn't up to singing songs written for Merman.

And as for Shirley Bassey, are we kidding? She rightfully had "Goldfinger" in the key that showed off her one remaining, "money" note. That's a far cry from singing a Jule Styne score. Not to mention that Bassey would have been in her late 60s when Louise was born.

I love both singers, BTW, but I'm not deaf. Are we just posting random notions in this thread?

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Posted by eperkins 2013-03-04 12:16:32


"I'm not trying to be obtuse- but when we speak of "the rights" to a musical being sold to the movies, we're speaking of the fruits of a whole team of creators- plus others who might "own" a part of the show. I would assume (feel free to correct me) that the rights to the show were (are still?) owned by David Merrick and Leland Hayward (well, their heirs) who produced the show. They (as producers) signed contracts with the creative team (Styne, Sondheim, Rose Hovic, Jerome Robbins) that spelled out their share of any subsequent sales or productions and any codicils those creators could come up with (Like Robbins insisting that any future production proclaim "Originally staged by Jerome Robbins").

This all gets spelled out in contracts. Now I've heard talk for years that Laurents had to "sign off" on ANY production of Gypsy done any where at any time but I always assumed that was "just talk." But I suppose- Gypsy WAS his idea and he did have some clout back then.

Sondheim, aside from being the most talented man to ever trod the boards and a certifiable genius from age 12 on, DID NOT have the clout back then. So does he really have the authority to put the kibosh on a multimillion dollar film with a word?"


Producers do not generally own any continuing rights to a show. (Other than the first right of refusal to produce a subsequent first class revival.) It would be the creators, and for the purposes of this discussion, that includes Sondheim. It matters not that he was not a well known entity at the time. He was the lyricist, and is a part owner of the piece (and in all likiehood, and equal owner with the Composer, and Librettist). Without seeing all the contracts involved, I can't speak to exact specifics, but there is absolutely no doubt that Sondheim could and does have a lot of legal rights when it comes to productions of anything he has contributed to. Generally, someone like MTI would hold (administer) the amateur rights to the production, but anything First Class (Broadway, National Tour) or Movie, or TV would be administered by the actual rights holders (or their agents or lawyers).

So no more talk of "Can Sondheim really do that?" The answer is "Yes, he can."

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Posted by CarlosAlberto 2013-03-04 12:37:19


Didn't you guys see the Gullt Trip?????Barbara on film doesn't look a day older than 50. Heck She can pass for 40's.

I am 44 and I found this insulting. Streisand does NOT look like she could pass for 40...and if that's the case (which it isn't) then I look 18. Maybe she can pass for 40 on some alternate reality, but not in this one.

You do know they could manipulate film images post-production, right?

And ditto on the sentiments regarding Natalie Wood. She's the Louise/Gypsy everyone else in measured up against...she was the best thing about the 1962 film version.

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Posted by brian.klimowski 2013-03-04 13:35:58


I actually think that's a great idea, haha. That would make it VERY cinematic!

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Posted by broadwaybabywannabe2 2013-03-04 13:50:24


and while we're at it how about BABS for Norma in SUNSET BOULEVARD?...now am i the only one who thinks that is the perfect role for her to play in film?...god knows she can sing that score!

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Posted by JoeKv99 2013-03-04 14:21:39


If Baba were to be in Sunset Boulevards she'd play the girlfriend and have it re-written so THAT were the leading role.

Thanks for the input Perkins.

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Posted by ComingUpRoses2 2013-03-04 14:55:59


I don't mind Streisand playing Rose (especially if she really did record the vocals years ago), but she can't direct herself as Rose. How the hell does that work? Didn't Bette Midler essentially do the same thing in her version, as the director was slowly dying and couldn't always be there to reel her in? We all know how that turned it. It was probably one of the worst, most self indulgent performances I've ever seen in my life and I could easily see Streisand doing something similar.

Rose needs a real actress who's not afraid to look bad or be unlikable. People like Streisand and Midler are always trying to be seen in the best light both literally and figuratively).

Gypsy is, IMO, probably the best musical of all time and it does need another film version. I would really like for someone to finally get it right, open it up, and make it cinematic. That person is probably not Streisand.

Sondheim doesn't want Streisand to direct Gypsy?
Posted by all that jazz 2013-03-04 16:21:42


I rather have Barbra as Rose than Norma. She could sing that score beautifully but I don't think she could act as crazy as Glenn Close, who will always be my Norma.

Sondheim doesn't want Streisand to direct Gypsy?
Posted by kieranbec 2013-03-05 00:52:23


^ Yes.