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Posted by chanel 2013-02-26 12:47:43


A moment in one of the short plays in Ives' All in the Timing.

Now everyone can start guessing which one.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/2013/02/guess_what_sond.php

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Posted by jnb9872 2013-02-26 17:58:11


I would love, based on his experiments with form (COMPANY all technically taking place in one second, MERRILY running backwards, etc.) if it was based on at least the structure of SURE THING. Letting Sondheim have two characters get it so wrong repeatedly but in different, precise ways, over the course of a musical would be so great. Then again, just having a two-character Sondheim show would also be fascinating, but I bet the concept could be opened up pretty easily.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-26 18:00:51


Did Musto call in sick and just phone this one in or something, because this is not new information.

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Posted by followspot 2013-02-26 18:28:39


Damn you for making me have to defend Michael Musto, Phyllis, but he clearly states that he's updating year-old news.



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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-26 19:05:11


Mea culpa! But for some reason I thought the fact that it was All in the Timing was still old news.

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Posted by chanel 2013-02-26 21:38:03


It had previously been reported that the show will be based on a moment in an Ives play, as Musto's blog says.

It had also been previously reported that it is about a relationship and it will go backwards in time, as he says. (In fact Musto's old blog, which is linked in the new one, linked to the BWW writeup, OK?)

But the new info is about which Ives work it will be. It's something from All in the Timing, and he says that based on the info we have, it will most likely be the first playlet or the one about the universal language.

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Posted by chanel 2013-02-26 21:46:16


He even writes, "Last year I wrote about..." and that links to the old information.

Then he states what the new information is.

How much clearer can it get?

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-26 21:57:10


I dunno, but you're in quite a snit about it if you have you had to come back and make another post eight minutes later.

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Posted by theatergeek3 2013-02-26 22:01:37


I am soooo excited for this! Sondheim is my FAVORITE composer/lyricist & it's been too long since we've last seen him! :)

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-26 22:03:13


Is chanel Musto?

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Posted by mormonophobic 2013-02-26 23:44:02


Phyllis is actually correct. The fact that this is going to be based on "Sure Thing" was reported by chewy5000 in December.

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Posted by ray-andallthatjazz86 2013-02-26 23:49:15


Where's Chanel?

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Posted by RippedMan 2013-02-26 23:53:45


A relationship going backwards doesn't sound like anything new?

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-26 23:59:20


I wonder if Musto has just never seen or read "Sure Thing" and just assumed it goes backwards.

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Posted by ljay889 2013-02-27 00:05:00


Chanel = Musto

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Posted by ray-andallthatjazz86 2013-02-27 00:11:07


Hilarious...or to use Phyllis' favorite word, amazing.

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Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-27 00:18:56


I'm just glad to confirm that I wasn't having a deja vu and I didn't just dream this information.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-27 18:55:53


Yeahhether it was just guesswork, or not, it was suggested that this was based on Sure Thing since even before Chewy's post... Anyway, I hope Sondheim's hand is all healed up and he's writing away.

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Posted by g.d.e.l.g.i. 2013-02-27 19:12:14


I'm just wondering, as I've repeatedly pointed out, where all this crap about getting Ives involved came from and why. He's had a book by Terrence McNally on ice for this project since the early Nineties. You can view it at a university library, for Christ's sake. Even if Ives inspired the piece back then, why involve him now? What changed?

(Source: Frontain, Raymond-Jean (2011). "Mutual admiration". The Sondheim Review (Sondheim Review, Inc.) XVII (3): 30–33.) <-- Only for you, Namo.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-27 19:19:33


I was just gonna mention the bizarre McNally similarity/connection. Maybe they just didn't get along and SS wants to work with Ives now? His play came first, didn't it? *confused*

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Posted by Matt Rogers 2013-02-27 20:49:37


jnb9872, Company "takes place in one second"?

I've never heard that before. I'm not doubting you, but I would love to know details and your source (probably Sonsheim in a book I didn't read, I'm guessing).

Thanks!

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-27 21:44:16


The Company one second thing is a director concept--I believe that's how Sam Mendes saw it (I think in the BBC telecast of that production, Mendes and Sondheim even discuss that during the interval), and others, but that wasn't necessarily the original staging or writing concept--though I suppose it could still be presented that way. But Mendes made that concept clear (overt?) with it all taking place in Bobby's head in sorta an instant thought--including doing Side by Side as a coke induced hallucination (something I've seen local productions crib from.)

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Posted by Kad 2013-02-27 22:25:21


One of the original concepts of Night Music was that the evening would reset several times throughout the show- Mme. Armfeldt would reshuffle her cards, and things would change.

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Posted by EricMontreal22 2013-02-28 01:09:52


Right--and wouldn't one time it end tragically, one time comically and one time right--or something like that? I know it went through a few idea stages--originally Wheeler and Sondheim were set on doing a musical of Ring Round the Moon, the Christopher Fry adaptation of the french Jean Anouilh play L'Invitation au Chteau, but Anouilh wouldn't allow them the rights, so they looked for something similar in tone.