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Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 20:17:22


Don't bite our heads off. We love you.

Love,
#BWW
#Broadwayworld
#NotTalkinBroadway
#Fierce
#RuPaulogize
#RachelMaddow
#StephenSondheimsSexDungeon
#hashtag


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by nasty_khakis 2013-02-12 20:34:17


Not a day goes by I don't use #StephenSondheimsSexDungeon

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 20:35:05


No pun intended, obviously.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by luvtheEmcee 2013-02-12 21:11:16


I think I've missed something I wish I hadn't missed.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-12 21:15:20


Dear Tyler,

Are you related to Ricky Martins?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 21:20:57


Here, Emcee

http://broadwayworld.com/board/readmessage.php?page=8&thread=1056398&dt=192

Although I can't get past Namo's comment at about 7:23. That's the last post I can see.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-12 21:25:26


Because really, what more is there to say?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 21:26:15


#neverforget

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 21:26:24


Definitively, apparently, nothing.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 21:33:05


Damn, people on Twitter really love their Buffalo Wild Wings

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by luvtheEmcee 2013-02-12 21:35:46


Oooo fun.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Kelly2 2013-02-12 21:51:07


"Although I can't get past Namo's comment at about 7:23. That's the last post I can see. "

Me as well. What's the deal with that?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 22:06:46


No idea. It's weird.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Bettyboy72 2013-02-12 22:08:47


It's nice that Mr. Martins can speak his mind AND threaten violence "bite our heads off" but people having a full range of reactions to a piece in the Times is somehow egregious and off putting. Isn't that rich.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by givesmevoice 2013-02-12 22:12:31


I find him to be one of the most annoying people on the internet.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:13:27


Be nice. This is a positive thread.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Patti LuPone FANatic 2013-02-12 22:20:15


Who is Tyler J. Martins? I haven't the foggiest. from RC in Austin, Texas (visiting NYC June 7-10).

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Johnnycantdecide 2013-02-12 22:21:25


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Bettyboy72 2013-02-12 22:23:53


This amazes me. Young people are so entitled. They want it both ways. They want to openly express their thoughts and opinions in a public forum. Then, when they are challenged, they say they are bullied.

I just dont get it. If you are not open to be criticized, then please do not tweet. Go away.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:25:45


First off he tweeted mean things about us. Second off, I stated this is a positive thread. Third off, someone even tweeted him and said this was a positive thread. Fourth off, how DARE YOU compare anything anyone has said here to what happened to Tyler Clemente.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Johnnycantdecide 2013-02-12 22:26:47


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 22:28:50


Seriously, comparing what people here have said to what drove Tyler Clementi to do that is irrational and even cruel.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Bettyboy72 2013-02-12 22:30:59


We were discussing this in OUR forum and he got snarky and mean on Twitter.

DO NOT COMPARE THIS TO A BULLYING TRAGEDY! DONT YOU DARE!!!!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by perfectlymarvelous 2013-02-12 22:31:41


Reacting to someone's opinion that they put on their PUBLIC Twitter account on the PUBLIC internet is absolutely nothing like what happened to Tyler Clementi.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-12 22:32:36


"You all raked a that kid over the coals who bullied that Rutgers student to the point of suicide."

No I did nahhhhhh-hotttttt. I most decidedly did not.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by BwayTday 2013-02-12 22:32:59


This thread is so inane. Why would a comment like his bother any of you to any extent. You are saying that he isn't open to being criticized, but you are ganging up (or whatever this is) on him for his annoyance with you. I'm not even mad (a little annoyed maybe), but I sincerely just don't understand.

(the collective "you", no one in particular. Second person sounds aggressive.)

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:33:01


That comparison makes my stomach turn. If Tyler Martins is a friend of yours, I hope he sees this and reconsiders that friendship.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-12 22:34:26


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-12 22:34:33


"ganging up (or whatever this is)"

Either it's ganging up or it isn't. And it isn't.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:35:04


Bwaytday, where are we ganging up?

Seriously, this is the Internet. If you put your name and ideas online, you give up any right to not have people discuss you and/or them.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 22:38:05


I kinda think comparing this to what happened to Tyler Clementi is worse than anything said in this thread or the other. It makes me sick, but I'm glad you removed it.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by BwayTday 2013-02-12 22:41:18


Sorry, I used "ganging up" because I didn't have a better phrase for it. I wasn't wishy-washily qualifying my statement. I don't know, I don't really think any of this is productive. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:42:07


Well Johnnycantdecide decided a good decision in removing one of the most offensive things I've read here in a while (my overly sexual posts excluded, obviously).

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Johnnycantdecide 2013-02-12 22:44:50


Okay, that's fair. That comment did not express my thoughts like I wanted them expressed.

Let me try again:

You never know how people will react to things. You never know how people will see things a perceive them.

Comparing this to the situation at Rutgers was stupid. Obviously the situation at Rutgers was a huge national tragedy and a eye opener to how bad homophobia/bullying is in this country. And this is no way the same thing.

Making a comparison was stupid and a knee jerk reaction and you deserved to jump all over me,

What I was trying to say is that bullying (or things that may be viewed as bullying) is harmful. Again, you never know how someone will react to something. Someone could see a post critiquing exclusively them and take it as mocking them. Or bullying them. And it could spark underlying depression. Or could do any number of things.

It's scary the power of the Internet and computers have on people.

Luckily, Tyler thinks this is hilarious. But what happens if you guys did this to someone who did not think it was so funny? What if this was a thread about someone other college age kids twitter who took this and had their mind overblown it?



Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:47:29


Amanda Sales feels personally judged.

Stay strong, Mandy!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Kelly2 2013-02-12 22:48:53


I'm so sick of people calling people not agreeing with them "bullying". You're cheapening the experience of kids who are actually bullied (which is characterized by repeated interactions, a constant and ongoing torrent of physical, emotional, psychological abuse) by saying that somebody getting some crap for something they said online is bullying.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Phyllis Rogers Stone 2013-02-12 22:52:15


I guess I don't understand why you keep bringing up that he's college aged? Shouldn't college aged people know enough that Twitter accounts are public?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 22:54:47


Did you read those bullying reviews that SCANDALOUS got? What about those bullying reviews saying ScarJo was miscast?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 22:55:13


Ha! I actually replied to the other thread and still can't see it normally.

Kelly, if you hit reply, you can see the posts post-Namo's 7:38 post.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-12 22:57:10


Tyler is an adult, we aren't talking about a middle or high schooler here. I do not see bullying anywhere in this thread or even the other thread. It's disgusting that people are calling this bullying. Aime AND Tyler have both put themselves out there publicly, there is no reason why a public forum cannot discuss their stories, etc.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Bettyboy72 2013-02-12 22:58:24


Again likening someone with a public profile on Twitter and someone who consents to a profile in the NY Times on the same level as someone who is victimized is wrong.

Public profile=open to public reactions.

Not bullying.

Again, if the thought of people critiquing you feels scary and mean, don't go public with your life and thoughts.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-12 22:59:17


Again, if the thought of people critiquing you feels scary and mean, don't go public with your life and thoughts.

THIS

THIS

THIS

THIS

THIS!!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 23:04:25


This is getting ridiculous, and this thread won't even be here in the morning.

1) Because of the subject matter
2) Because it's a thread started by Jordan. Those could be harmless and still be deleted.

I personally think the "is this bullying? or is this fair critique in response to critique" debate would be better at another time.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Kelly2 2013-02-12 23:06:50


Wynbish, thanks! Good to know I wasn't going nuts and it wasn't working for others.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-12 23:08:27


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by emilyfaye48 2013-02-12 23:14:09


guys, guys, guys. What's happening

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 23:17:48


ljay, maybe he IS friends with them.

But stuff like that will make sure this thread is deleted. There's actually an interesting conversation here, like within that other thread about people who openly discuss a topic (whatsherface with ONCE and Tyler with BWW) and people's ability (at least on this forum) to discuss it. In my opinion, Tyler posting about us made it ok for us to discuss it, but making fun of him is different.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Broadway Joe 2013-02-12 23:20:24


What a bunch of PC bullsh*t that other thread turned into. Don't put yourself in an article in the New York Times for all to see if you don't want people to talk about you. Common sense 101.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by FindingNamo 2013-02-12 23:24:42


What on earth is PC about any of that?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 23:27:52


Why don't we start an OT thread about defining the line between fair criticism, picking on someone, and actual bullying? Then, we could let this thread die (no offense, Jordan) and take a serious discussion away from it that will last longer than 7:30 AM EST.

And someone just tweeted that they are in the restroom of a Buffalo Wild Wings. I hate the internet sometimes.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 23:34:17


I hate that this thread will be deleted. Honest to God, I do. I hate it because this is actually an honest discussion of something that's real in the world. It's about responding publicly to a public discussion about us.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 23:43:59


I agree, but things have been deleted for a Shitload less. And it's bad PR to keep this thread, because e-mails have already been sent by them asking for the other thread to be taken down. Who knows about the reaction to this one? If the site does nothing, I predict other websites like Spotted and Craptacular may address this.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-12 23:44:32


Then that's just sad.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-12 23:49:25


I said something, in the other thread, that implied my lust for a Mr. Stark Sands, and that was taken down. They can delete my post, but they can never delete my hormones.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 00:04:29


But I genuinely hope the serious discussion can somehow remain in people's minds. Not every negative, nitpicky, or even bitchy word spoken is bullying. That belittles bullying.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 00:06:15


Tyler's friends don't like that we're not giving our real names and he thinks we're all "very sad".

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-13 00:06:46


I just opened BWW and ...

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 00:08:33


That's my new favorite gif ever of all time.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 00:09:00


Maybe we should stop addressing them and furthering their "infamy" and general misunderstanding.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-13 00:17:18


#thereisnodungeon

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 00:19:33


#yourejustbitterbecauseyouveneverbeeninvitedtoit

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 00:27:33


What equipment would be in there

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 00:40:41


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 00:41:50


Giggy says Nope.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 00:43:31


That little sex monster!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 00:49:03


I don't even know about the episode last night.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by PalJoey 2013-02-13 00:54:43


#i'mstillherebutthere'snodungeon

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-13 01:44:49


Jordan, you're officially Tumblr famous! #willtherealjordancatalanopleasestandup?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 01:48:20


You know what sucks? Is that I really, honest to God didn't mean this to be a bashing of any kind thread. It was in response to someone on twitter who had a beef with us for being "mean" (not me personally since I didn't have anything really negative to say in the other thread) but people see anything as a reason to attack.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by chewy5000 2013-02-13 01:51:15


And to think, all of this would never have happened if she'd only seen the show once. I mean, there is clearly a warning right there in the title.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 01:51:44


It's martyrdom

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-13 01:53:28


BUT WHO ARE YOU JORDAN?!?!?!?!? WHO ARE YOU DAMN IT?!?!?!?!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 01:54:12


I'm just a girl standing in front of twitter asking it to love me.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 01:55:57


What annoys me is the misunderstanding on their side. From what I gathered, this person got attention here because of his saying he wanted to "bite their heads off". And yet, it seems that to them, you guys are mercilessly attacking him for defending "fandom". I think it would have been different and a non-issue if he had tweeted something like, "Wow, BWW. Really do not agree" or something not as harsh, right? The harshness (it's too late to see if this is a real word), when it comes to him, started with him.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 01:58:47


For the most part, we're a "fun loving" bunch here. And like any message board (TWITTER INCLUDED) we can be bitchy, as well. But besides a couple of bad apples I think we're all pretty reasonable and well spoken. So when I see someone inside the twitter (as my aunt calls it) who says we're being nasty when we aren't, I just wanted to say "Hey! We're not nasty! Come play with us!"

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:01:24


It's like when Chi Chi went on his "Legends are evil" bitch-fests.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:02:38


I wonder what screen name he's using now.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:05:07


I genuinely think that if he or Quiche (I think they're different) would just say, "Hey! This is me now!", I personally would leave him alone. Now, I'm suspicious of everyone who has joined since December (some more than others).

And the whole "They're cowards who don't use real names!"... We're the rule, not the exception to online commentary. Most don't use real names. It's too easy to social media stalk.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:10:57


I agree with everything you said 110%.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:13:57


And it'll still be viewed as me being a cowardly asshole attacking someone for their beautiful feelings toward the idea of fandom and love and smiles.

Ah well, I've been called worse.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:15:44


threadjack...

Wynbish, do you watch Dance Moms?? It was insane tonight.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:16:54


No, but I watch the gifs T. Kyle makes. And you would think Abby would just cancel the memberships of some of the daughters/mothers

Like this one

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:18:17


Exactly. There's always something someone can/will say about anything you write if they don't like you. They can say "OMG he's posting at 2:20 in the morning! Doesn't he have a life?!" when they don't realize/know/care/etc that I don't have anything scheduled until 2pm tomorrow and frankly, I'm just not tired. But anyone can still make it seem like no matter what I write, I'm the pathetic one because of WHEN I'm writing it.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:18:26






LOL. Right.

Tonight's episode almost matched RHONJ craziness.


Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:19:43


LOL, I just posted fatty too!

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:19:47


I met Abby last year and she couldn't have been sweeter. The whole time I was talking to her I was just thinking "Will the real Abby please come out to play?!"

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:21:57


I was thinking that too! Usually, I'm not on here this late unless there's a fun meltdown (ah, remember those?)

Currently, I'm trying to work on my thesis. Trying...

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:22:03






I'd be scared to meet her! She can be quite unpleasant (on tv, lol).

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:24:57




I assume the regular mothers get some fee for appearing on the show.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:26:03


I'd imagine so. And now they (the mothers) pimp the girls out at meet and greets at malls, etc.

They've really been pushing Real Housewives drama this season. It's entertaining, but kind of sad because the show is barely about dance now.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:27:43


The poor children

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:28:25


PS. Brandi's new book is #15 on Amazon. I bet she's going to make the Bestsellers list. I'm actually happy for her.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-13 02:30:27


Okay, but can we just talk about Kenya's appearance at Nene's party? Thanks.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:31:24


#Classic
#Perfect

Hated Kenya at first, but she understands good reality TV.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:31:41


Dear Tyler J. Martins
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Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:33:15


I heart Brandi, and her wearing Lisa's robe.

Kenya is Gone with the Wind fabulous and Sybil cray cray.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:33:56


What the hell happened to this thread?

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by ljay889 2013-02-13 02:34:25


lmfao sybil cray cray.

I'm wondering the same JC, but i'm loving it. It's a perfect ending.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Wynbish 2013-02-13 02:41:07


I will say that only on BWW can a thread mention suicide on the first page and have NeNe gifs on the last

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by WiCkEDrOcKS 2013-02-13 02:43:57


It's officially Ash Wednesday and I've been waiting all month for this because I just want to say "bye ashy!" to my priest after he blesses me.

Dear Tyler J. Martins
Posted by Jordan Catalano 2013-02-13 02:44:35




This thread's hot.